9-Tone Melody-Centric Just Tuning System Diagram #1:

To start off with, I thought I'd do the simplest possible tuning
system plugging the first 8 intervals of the harmonic series into my
contour choice ordering algorithm.

I don't have the software to try and diagram this tuning linearly, so
I'm just listing the intervals and their directions (ascending or
descending) within the "master" melody.
Any help or pointers toward software which would automate the
generation of an actual linear tuning system diagram would be
appreciated.

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1. Pitch Class #1: Descend 3/2 to...

2. Pitch Class #2: Ascend 4/3 to...

3. Pitch Class #3: Ascend 5/4 to...

4. Pitch class #4: Descend 6/5 to...

5. Pitch class #5: Ascend 7/6 to...

6. Pitch class #6: Descend 7/5 to...

7. Pitch class #7: Descand 7/4 to...

8. Pitch class #8: Ascend 9/8 to...

9. Pitch class #9

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Bill Flavell

> Any help or pointers toward software which would automate the
> generation of an actual linear tuning system diagram would be
> appreciated.

I'm not sure what you mean by "linear tuning system diagram",
but Scala...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/

...and Tonescape...

http://www.tonalsoft.com

...are the only possibilities I know of at the moment.

> 1. Pitch Class #1: Descend 3/2 to...
> 2. Pitch Class #2: Ascend 4/3 to...
> 3. Pitch Class #3: Ascend 5/4 to...
> 4. Pitch class #4: Descend 6/5 to...
> 5. Pitch class #5: Ascend 7/6 to...
> 6. Pitch class #6: Descend 7/5 to...
> 7. Pitch class #7: Descand 7/4 to...
> 8. Pitch class #8: Ascend 9/8 to...
> 9. Pitch class #9

Interesting idea. Are you familiar with the "chop sui" scales
of the Sonic Arts Ensemble (out of San Diego, CA)?

-Carl

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 8:43 pm, Carl Lumma wrote:
> > Any help or pointers toward software which would automate the
> > generation of an actual linear tuning system diagram would be
> > appreciated.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "linear tuning system diagram",
> but Scala...
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/
>
> ...and Tonescape...
>
> http://www.tonalsoft.com
>
> ...are the only possibilities I know of at the moment.
>
> > 1. Pitch Class #1: Descend 3/2 to...
> > 2. Pitch Class #2: Ascend 4/3 to...
> > 3. Pitch Class #3: Ascend 5/4 to...
> > 4. Pitch class #4: Descend 6/5 to...
> > 5. Pitch class #5: Ascend 7/6 to...
> > 6. Pitch class #6: Descend 7/5 to...
> > 7. Pitch class #7: Descand 7/4 to...
> > 8. Pitch class #8: Ascend 9/8 to...
> > 9. Pitch class #9
>
> Interesting idea. Are you familiar with the "chop sui" scales
> of the Sonic Arts Ensemble (out of San Diego, CA)?

Carl-

I Googled for these, but found nothing. What are they?

-Aaron.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:
> > Any help or pointers toward software which would automate the
> > generation of an actual linear tuning system diagram would be
> > appreciated.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "linear tuning system diagram",

The ones that list all of the intervals from the "fundamental" pitch
class on the far left of the diagram, and also the intervals between
adjacent pitch classes of the scale/tuning. I'll try and find a
concrete example on the web and post it.

> but Scala...
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/
>
> ...and Tonescape...
>
> http://www.tonalsoft.com
>
> ...are the only possibilities I know of at the moment.

Thanks very nuch for those recommendations! :)

>
> > 1. Pitch Class #1: Descend 3/2 to...
> > 2. Pitch Class #2: Ascend 4/3 to...
> > 3. Pitch Class #3: Ascend 5/4 to...
> > 4. Pitch class #4: Descend 6/5 to...
> > 5. Pitch class #5: Ascend 7/6 to...
> > 6. Pitch class #6: Descend 7/5 to...
> > 7. Pitch class #7: Descand 7/4 to...
> > 8. Pitch class #8: Ascend 9/8 to...
> > 9. Pitch class #9
>
> Interesting idea. Are you familiar with the "chop sui" scales
> of the Sonic Arts Ensemble (out of San Diego, CA)?

No, but I'm also in southern CA, a non-student "slacker" at UCLA! :)

I'll see what I can find on them! :)

Bill Flavell

> > Interesting idea. Are you familiar with the "chop sui" scales
> > of the Sonic Arts Ensemble (out of San Diego, CA)?
>
> I Googled for these, but found nothing.

It's not right, but I'm extremely pleased by this for some reason.

> What are they?

Randomly-out-of-order mapping of the pitches (as opposed to
the pitch classes) of a scale to a keyboard. Meant to force the
improvisor out of patterns.

Monz is probably a better person to answer this.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@y...> wrote:

> I'm not sure what you mean by "linear tuning system diagram",
> but Scala...
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/
>
> ...and Tonescape...
>
> http://www.tonalsoft.com
>
> ...are the only possibilities I know of at the moment.

I'm accessing the web at public internet terminals at UCLA,
so I can't download software. I saw a web page yesterday that
listed various just intonation intervals and their cents
values, so I'll try and use that to cobble together some
decent tuning diagrams for the tunings I design.

Thanks again for the info, Carl! :)

Bill Flavell