Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Re: [tuning] Digest Number 3626

http://www.anaphoria.com/bagpipe.PDF
there is also a book BAGPIPES AND TUNING BY THEODORE PODNOS

One has to remember what the music of the bagpipe requires, the ability to play a song over and over again for a long period of time.
If the scale is too consonant, then it resolves much to easily, giving a feeling to the tune that it is over, but one proceeds.
The origin of the bagpipe is from the mid east, and neural thirds are more common than not

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> 1. Experiments with microtuned Vocal Synthesis
> From: Charles Lucy <lucy@harmonics.com>
> 2. Celtic music in meantone
> From: Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@akjmusic.com>
> 3. Authentic chamber music tuning
> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
> 4. Re: Celtic music in meantone
> From: Michael Zapf <zapfzapfzapf@yahoo.de>
> 5. Re: Authentic chamber music tuning
> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
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>Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:54:42 +0100
> From: Charles Lucy <lucy@harmonics.com>
>Subject: Experiments with microtuned Vocal Synthesis
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>A few weeks ago I mentioned that I had been playing with a new Mac >application called VocalWriter.
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>http://kaelabs.com/
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>It allows you to pitchbend a midi file and select from about six >voices which will sing a choice from about fifty phonemes for each note.
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>There is a free demo download at their site.
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>To avoid all the tedious midi pitchbends, I did the tuning >modifications from 12edo to LucyTuning from within Logic Pro 7 using >pitch correction and SongSetting/Tunings.
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>The strange rhythm is taken from a short percussion loop I grabbed >from a Tinariwen (camel pattern) track and I converted into midi >using beat mapping.
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>I have posted an example of the results, which is a rough mix of part >of a song which I wrote many years ago in Brazil,
>where I was unable to find anyone who spoke any English and at that >time I knew none of the local language.
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>http://www.lucytune.com/mp3/VivaTouristPart21Aug05.mp3
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>I shall eventually complete the mix and it will be on a forthcoming >album later this year.
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>Charles Lucy - lucy@harmonics.com
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>Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:19:20 -0500
> From: Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@akjmusic.com>
>Subject: Celtic music in meantone
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>I have done midi files and jammed like this before, but I'm reminded of it >since I just got back from Milwaukee's IrishFest: Celtic music would work >beautifully in meantone: most of the keys never wander beyond three sharps, >and flat keys are all quite rare. The most common keys are G major/e minor, C >major/a minor D major/b minor, F major/d minor.
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>Any more thoughts on the matter from anyone? (of course, the fretted >instuments would present somewaht of a problem, perhaps?)
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>Best,
>Aaron.
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>Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 05:19:36 -0000
> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
>Subject: Authentic chamber music tuning
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>What requirements must a tuning for chamber music, sans piano, satisfy
>in order for the tuning to be considered authentic? Is 12-et always
>authentic? When is extended meantone authentic?
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>I've been working on an extended meantone version of the first
>movement of the Brahms string quartet #3, op 67, and listening to the
>Monzified Cavatina movement from Beethoven's op 130. It's pretty hard
>to argue that these versions are any less authentic than a midi file
>in strict 12 >equal would be, and doing this demonstrates that extended meantone an
>deal with quite a lot of harmonic complexity. It also sounds damned good.
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>Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 10:01:14 +0100 (BST)
> From: Michael Zapf <zapfzapfzapf@yahoo.de>
>Subject: Re: Celtic music in meantone
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>Aaron,
>As a small building block for your question, may I
>bother you with a bit of medieval German literature?
>In Gottfriedï¿½s ï¿½Tristanï¿½ (ca. 1210) there is the
>following passage, where the young hero shows his
>proficiency with the harp at the court of king Marke:
>ï¿½do begunde er suoze doenen
>und harpfen so ze prise
>in britunscher wise,
>daz maneger da stuont unde saz
>der sin selbes namen vergaz.
>da begunden herze und oren
>tumben unde toren
>und zu ir rehte wanken.ï¿½
>(he played so beautifully and struck the harp with
>such skill in Breton manner, that many who stood an
>sat there forgot their own names. Their hearts and
>ears were dazed, and they lost their normal
>condition.). Verses 3588-3595, my translation.
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>In the very same passage, mention is made of Tristanï¿½s
>playing technique. He ï¿½ruorteï¿½ and ï¿½sluocï¿½ (V. 3553)
>the instrument, which means he both plucked single
>notes and was strumming chords with all fingers, and
>ï¿½sus nam er sinen plectrum:
>nagel unde seiten zoher,
>diese niderer, jene hoher,
>rehte als er si wollte han.ï¿½
>(he took his tuning key and turned the tuning pegs,
>lowering and raising the string pitches as he liked
>it) Verses 3558-2561.
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>Why am I citing this? Because, while we donï¿½t have any
>record of early ï¿½Celticï¿½ harp tuning, at least the
>passage shows that Tristan was playing both melodies
>and chords with his instrument, and that he was an
>early member of this group.
>Michael
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>Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 10:12:56 -0000
> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
>Subject: Re: Authentic chamber music tuning
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>--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
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>>I've been working on an extended meantone version of the first
>>movement of the Brahms string quartet #3, op 67
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>It's now in the 31 equal folder over on tuning files. I'd be
>interested to hear reactions.
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Re: [tuning] Digest Number 3626

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