recent reading

Hi all,

I took some time out from reading the tuning list messages
over the weekend, so I could brush up on some fundamentals.
Something to do with the saying "You learn more with your
ears open and your mouth shut"!

From all the various things I've downloaded over the last
few months, I re-read the following -
a.. Just Intonation Explained - Kyle Gann, 1997
b.. The Forms of Tonality - a preview - Paul Erlich, 2001
c.. A gentle introduction to Fokker periodicity blocks - Paul Erlich, 1999
d.. HEWM notation (in TonalSoft Encyclopedia of Tuning) - Joe Monzo, 2004
e.. The Noble Mediant � Complex ratios and metastable musical intervals -
Margo Schulter and David Keenan, 2000
f.. The fretting of the Arab lute - Joe Monzo, 1998
g.. Optimising JI guitar designs using linear microtemperaments � Dave
Keenan, 2003, revised May 2005
but not the following (ran out of time) -
a.. Joe Monzo's book (minus diagrams) in PDF format
b.. Dave Benson's book on music and maths, in PDF format
I also didn't try rereading various papers of Erv Wilson's, from the archive
at Anaphoria, because I find them almost unreadable - very low contrast
manuscript plays havoc with my eyesight! A pity, 'cos I think there's
interesting material in there somewhere.

Overall, I'm trying to develop a rounded picture of A) what's possible and
B) what's been achieved so far, without prejudice for or against anyone
because of reasons of fashion or personal taste.

A question to the cognoscenti - in the above list, have I missed any
important resources on temperament and tuning that are readily available on
the Internet?
Regards,
Yahya

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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Yahya Abdal-Aziz" <yahya@m...> wrote:

> A question to the cognoscenti - in the above list, have I missed any
> important resources on temperament and tuning that are readily
available on
> the Internet?

The tuning-math list, but you know that's there. My web site, if you
don't mind the math. Graham's web site, if it can somehow be found.

Dave Keenan's site: http://dkeenan.com/Music/

Herman Miller's site: http://www.io.com/~hmiller/music/index.html

Gene,

Thanks for these.

Yes, I've visited Dave's site recently, also Rich Holmes'.

Graham Breed's website is never there of late :-)

I'd forgotten about Herman's site until I saw his name
again today on Andrew Heathwaite's site; I'll check it out.

But what's your website address?

Regards,
Yahya

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The tuning-math list, but you know that's there. My web site, if you
don't mind the math. Graham's web site, if it can somehow be found.

Dave Keenan's site: http://dkeenan.com/Music/

Herman Miller's site: http://www.io.com/~hmiller/music/index.html

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Thank you, Kraig!

Yes, I've increased the size; I've even taken screen snapshots
and used a graphics editor to increase the contrast even further,
carefully adjusting the histogram; this helps, but I still find
important bits missing.

As for books, I've long referred to Helmholt/Ellis as a great
source on the physiology and history of tuning phenomena. Ellis
has some great Appendices which really enhanced Helmholtz'
work - I particularly enjoyed his information on the teaching of
Sol-fa singing to the musically untrained, and wonder whatever
happened to the Sol-fa "movement". Partch's book (Genesis of
a New Music) is on my list to get; but I hadn't heard of a
Mandelbaum or a Yasser in the tuning context - what are their
books called?

I was primarily looking for online links rather than books; as
I don't get to leave home very much, it's a bit difficult shopping.

Thanks again for your input.

Regards,
Yahya

-----Original Message-----
From: Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

I am sorry to hear you are having trouble. As PDF one can always
increase the size of the original which makes it allot easier.
When they were put in, the contrast was put all the way up.

I would also recommend Partch's book
the Greek aulos
Mandelbaum book
yassers book
helmholtz
bosanquets
just to name a few

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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 12:44:16 +1000 From: "Yahya Abdal-Aziz"; but I hadn't heard of a Mandelbaum or a Yasser in the tuning context - what are their books called?
Yasser book is
Theroy of Evolving Tonality.
Which discusses the evolution from pentatonic to diatonic to chromatic and at that time he believed 19ET
the stuff on pentatonic harmony is especially important. His relationship to Kornerup is interesting in that if you carry Yassers series you end up with Kornerups fifth. The two argure who did it first. Even though the later parts of the book would not be useful to most, his conceptional thinking is still with us in many ways

Mandlebaums PH.D Thesis
Multiple division of the octive and the tonal resources of 19 tone temperment 1961
Despite Mandelbaum favoring 19 ET at the time. he is quite objective about all type of other subdivisions and has a firm grasp on the work of other before him. It is filled with multiple gems especially Viggo Brun Algorithm which is a great scale generating method that often produces scales other systems by pass on the way.

Johnny Reinhard had mentioned that this might appear on line- if not, i would be willing to put it up myself.

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In a message dated 6/2/2005 9:53:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kraiggrady@anaphoria.com writes:
Johnny Reinhard had mentioned that this might appear on line- if not, i
would be willing to put it up myself.
I have scanned some of the thesis and might be able to send as much as there
is, but the project was discontinued. It is available from Microfilms in
Michigan at a very reasonable fee.

all best, Johnny

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/2/2005 9:53:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> kraiggrady@a... writes:
> Johnny Reinhard had mentioned that this might appear on line- if not, i
> would be willing to put it up myself.
> I have scanned some of the thesis and might be able to send as much
as there
> is, but the project was discontinued. It is available from
Microfilms in
> Michigan at a very reasonable fee.

If Mandelbaum is amenable to the idea perhaps someone else would like
to continue the project. I think space would easily enough be found
online.