Re: [tuning] Digest Number 3460

> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:36:23 +1000
> From: "Yahya Abdal-Aziz" <yahya@melbpc.org.au>
> Subject: RE: Digest Number 3458
> > > > Hi Daniel,
> > I'm familiar with the term "Fauxbourdon" as an organ stop, and had > read of "faburden" as being a form of descant singing in Western > Europe. I had always assumed some connection between the two ... Fauxbourdon, fabourdon, falsabordone etc. are variants.

> > Can you point me to a (preferably online) reference giving more > detail about the character and practice of "fauxburdon" as > "a semi-improvised form of polyphony"?
> try the New Grove, but if you read German, here's a quick summary:

http://www.klassik-heute.de/lexikon/lexikon_fauxbourdon.shtml

> BTW: "Islamdom" ??? Did you just make that up? In Arabic, we speak > of the Jama`ah Islamiyyah, the Islamic community. YA
> I follow the terms of Marshall G.S. Hodgson, whose three volume "The Venture of Islam" is a genuine triumph of open-minded scholarship.

Daniel Wolf

Hi Jacob and all,

A wiki would be an excellent idea for this community.

For anyone who wants to get a quick idea of what's
possible with a wiki, can I suggest you first look at
the wikipedia - an online encyclopaedia which uses
a wiki as its chief mechanism. The mathematical
and physical knowledge alone already available on
wikipedia far exceeds the scope of a normal
course of study for an undergraduate degree. The
quality of the articles is extremely high, due in part
to the wiki mechanism itself.

There is of course the possibility that we could use
the wiki itself as the means for online publishing of
original ideas and research, as well as using it as a
discussion forum and reference tool

Regards,
Yahya

-----Original Message-----
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:55:50 -0000
From: "Jacob"
Subject: wiki wonderings [cross-post]

[perhaps more appropriate to the technology-oriented MMM list, but
nevertheless
germane to the entire online tuning community, I hope]

I've been pondering the idea of a microtonal wiki, which Andrew first
suggested to me. (A
wiki is a web of (mostly-text) webpages that may be edited by anyone at any
time. A web
search will reveal much more about it than you will ever want to know!)

I think that having one is a good idea, for many reasons. Dredging through
archives of
Yahoo groups is an inefficient way of finding any sort of specific
information. Doubtless
we can make things easier for first-timers, everyone really, if we can free
our collective
knowledge (and opinions) from the mandatory chronologically-based system
here.

Certainly there are many websites by members here and elsewhere full of good
information. I already feel that I have enough of my own spin on things that
I could have
one as well. But I'd much rather have a place where everyone could
contribute, a place that
would not depend on one person having enough time to maintain it.

A wiki could in time accomodate several things that would be good for the
community. The ones I think of include:

�"microtonal solutions" as I like to say; not only examples of
hardware-software setups as
Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested but also acoustic solutions,
experiencial
instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare
microtonal
instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments
(providing the
curators of them want this)

�lists of downloadable microtonal sounds and CD's, and perhaps discussion
and criticism.

�a catalogue of scales that people like, or have composed in, or have
created. and
discussion, sound examples of them.

�one thing a wiki is great for, an FAQ. Everyone posts questions, answers.

But ultimately the content of a wiki depends on what everyone wants there. I
guess there's
no need for a grand master plan before starting something so insanely
open-ended.

So where to start? We could either get run an open-source WikiEngine on
somebody's server, or start one on an existing "WikiFarm," or just leech
onto an existing
wiki. For the latter option, take a look at www.composerplanet.com - to me
its vision of
helping everybody make music is a more general version of what I am
suggesting. But
perhaps we are a big enough community and this is a big enough subject that
it needs its
own place.

Talk to me.

--Jacob

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I agree, a wiki could be useful and fun. I'd be willing to help. Do we need a place for it to live?

- Dave

Yahya Abdal-Aziz wrote:
> > Hi Jacob and all,
> > A wiki would be an excellent idea for this community.
> > For anyone who wants to get a quick idea of what's
> possible with a wiki, can I suggest you first look at
> the wikipedia - an online encyclopaedia which uses
> a wiki as its chief mechanism. The mathematical
> and physical knowledge alone already available on
> wikipedia far exceeds the scope of a normal
> course of study for an undergraduate degree. The
> quality of the articles is extremely high, due in part
> to the wiki mechanism itself.
> > There is of course the possibility that we could use
> the wiki itself as the means for online publishing of
> original ideas and research, as well as using it as a
> discussion forum and reference tool
> > Regards,
> Yahya
> > > -----Original Message-----
> ________________________________________________________________________
> > Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:55:50 -0000
> From: "Jacob"
> Subject: wiki wonderings [cross-post]
> > > [perhaps more appropriate to the technology-oriented MMM list, but
> nevertheless
> germane to the entire online tuning community, I hope]
> > I've been pondering the idea of a microtonal wiki, which Andrew first
> suggested to me. (A
> wiki is a web of (mostly-text) webpages that may be edited by anyone at any
> time. A web
> search will reveal much more about it than you will ever want to know!)
> > I think that having one is a good idea, for many reasons. Dredging through
> archives of
> Yahoo groups is an inefficient way of finding any sort of specific
> information. Doubtless
> we can make things easier for first-timers, everyone really, if we can free
> our collective
> knowledge (and opinions) from the mandatory chronologically-based system
> here.
> > Certainly there are many websites by members here and elsewhere full of good
> information. I already feel that I have enough of my own spin on things that
> I could have
> one as well. But I'd much rather have a place where everyone could
> contribute, a place that
> would not depend on one person having enough time to maintain it.
> > A wiki could in time accomodate several things that would be good for the
> community. The ones I think of include:
> > �"microtonal solutions" as I like to say; not only examples of
> hardware-software setups as
> Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested but also acoustic solutions,
> experiencial
> instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare
> microtonal
> instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments
> (providing the
> curators of them want this)
> > �lists of downloadable microtonal sounds and CD's, and perhaps discussion
> and criticism.
> > �a catalogue of scales that people like, or have composed in, or have
> created. and
> discussion, sound examples of them.
> > �one thing a wiki is great for, an FAQ. Everyone posts questions, answers.
> > But ultimately the content of a wiki depends on what everyone wants there. I
> guess there's
> no need for a grand master plan before starting something so insanely
> open-ended.
> > So where to start? We could either get run an open-source WikiEngine on
> somebody's server, or start one on an existing "WikiFarm," or just leech
> onto an existing
> wiki. For the latter option, take a look at www.composerplanet.com - to me
> its vision of
> helping everybody make music is a more general version of what I am
> suggesting. But
> perhaps we are a big enough community and this is a big enough subject that
> it needs its
> own place.
> > Talk to me.
> > --Jacob
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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hi Dave,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Dave Seidel <dave@s...> wrote:

> I agree, a wiki could be useful and fun. I'd be willing
> to help. Do we need a place for it to live?
>
> - Dave

in my response to Jacob, i already offered the Tonalsoft
website, assuming that we have or can get the space and
whatever else (software, etc.) is necessary.

-monz

Yes, sorry I missed that. Cool, that would be a perfect place for it.

- Dave

monz wrote:
> > hi Dave,
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Dave Seidel <dave@s...> wrote:
> > >>I agree, a wiki could be useful and fun. I'd be willing
>>to help. Do we need a place for it to live?
>>
>>- Dave
> > > > in my response to Jacob, i already offered the Tonalsoft
> website, assuming that we have or can get the space and > whatever else (software, etc.) is necessary.
> > > -monz
> > > > > > > > > > > > You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to one
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> > > > > > > >