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Humble us O Lord!

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@superonline.com>

3/10/2005 12:01:25 AM

Dear Yahya, my reckless intrusion was meant to be a joke, but I guess my cover for false pretentions to humility is blown. So, I will try to recover what is left.

Regards,
Ozan

----- Original Message -----
From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 10 Mart 2005 Perşembe 7:42
Subject: RE: [tuning] Digest Number 3436

Dear Ozan,

You really are astonishing! But I'm pleased that Pete doesn't
try to make a little tin god out of you, too. For God's sake,
Erv Wilson, however wonderful a person he may be (and probably
is, from the little I've read) is still a human being. It's too easy
to carry humility and reverence so far that it incapacitates us
from _doing_ anything ourselves.

Still, most of us need heroes, don't we? It's just that some of
us know ourselves so well, that we are simply astounded every
day by our own brilliance, and thus can serve as our own rôle
models! (Speaking strictly for myself, of course :-) ...)

I won't begin to enumerate my many dazzling qualities here,
my scholarly, musical, artistic, mathematical and pedagogical
feats, or even those personal attributes that charm vipers,
for fear of being castigated for a lack of seemly humility.
Besides which, it might blind some lesser lights, so much so
that they begin to waste my time and theirs in making
unnecessary pilgrimages to grovel at my feet in silent awe;
when instead they could be taking their _own_ lights out from
under the bushel.

In case you hadn't guessed by now, my theme song is:
"Oh Lord! It's hard to be humble."

Regards,
Yahya

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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:05:27 +0200
From: "Ozan Yarman"
Subject: Re: Re: Erv Wilson

I can read Arabic and can you a lot of things about quasars and supernovas,
but I don't see anyone astonished at my e-presence... ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ward Smith
To: tuning
Sent: 09 Mart 2005 Çarşamba 0:21
Subject: [tuning] Re: Erv Wilson

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Pete McRae <ambassadorbob@y...> wrote:

> It's quite engaging, really. But he knows things you're probably
not going to know, so just accept them.

I know huge numbers of things you will never, ever have even a clue
about, and you don't seem to be getting silently mystical in my
e-presence. Anyone who has a lot of specialist knowledge can say the
same. Do you ever get on a university campus, and if so do you stagger
everywhere in dumbfounded amazement--"She can read Akkadian! He can
tell you vast numbers of things you don't want to know about nematodes!"

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:30:45 -0000
From: "Gene Ward Smith"
Subject: Re: Erv Wilson

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@s...> wrote:

> I can read Arabic and can you a lot of things about quasars and
supernovas, but I don't see anyone astonished at my e-presence... ;)

Maybe they should be; if you want to fill us in on music theory
translated from Arabic I think a lot of people would be all ears. Are
you an astronomer by trade?

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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 13:01:19 +0200
From: "Ozan Yarman"
Subject: Re: Re: Erv Wilson

They really should not be (astonished), unless I can impress them with my
music, which I don't claim to have any skills for.

Don't get me wrong, I can read the Quran in Arabic script, and can discern
many other words written in plain Arabic, but that does not help me
understand Arabic any more than Ottoman. Nevertheless I take pride in my
oratorial skills in other languages (transliterated in latin).

There are several treatises in Arabic awaiting translation at the moment
though. This calls for a scholarly teamwork. I stand ready to do an analysis
on any treatise once its fully and correctly prepared in either English or
Turkish.

BTW, I'm an astronomy fan and have here a huge atlas of astronomy relased by
the Cambridge University that I can refer to. In regards to music, I was
very intrigued by the solor scale. Fascinating, how the planets are
aligned...

Cordially,
Ozan
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ward Smith
To: tuning
Sent: 09 Mart 2005 Çarşamba 11:30
Subject: [tuning] Re: Erv Wilson

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@s...> wrote:

> I can read Arabic and can you a lot of things about quasars and
supernovas, but I don't see anyone astonished at my e-presence... ;)

Maybe they should be; if you want to fill us in on music theory
translated from Arabic I think a lot of people would be all ears. Are
you an astronomer by trade?

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🔗Pete McRae <ambassadorbob@yahoo.com>

3/10/2005 9:44:44 AM

But I'm pleased that Pete doesn't
try to make a little tin god out of you, too.

Dear Yahya,

I'm tempted... ;-) I did indicate, however, (probably in another weirdly unraveling thread), that my "reverence" for EW extends mainly toward his humanity. I'm not a mathematician, as should be obvious, but I read somewhere recently that even they ;-) have been known to call it "fallibility".

His (EW's) "theoretical" work is something I see as useful, and therefore un-iconic, or something more--or less?--than venerable.

I just read a fascinating little article on Charles Sanders Pearce, too, which was one of the source materials I got from Erv, not so long ago. Interesting bio, not to mention the ideas...

Very amusing post, too, Yahya, BTW!

Appreciatively,

P

----- Original Message -----
From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 10 Mart 2005 Per�embe 7:42
Subject: RE: [tuning] Digest Number 3436


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