Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning RE: [tuning] beautiful sentiment!

as a rock writer i will just clap. just brilliant.

yes. it is the repressiveness that refuses to acknowledge that there could be anything that can teach it...making the radio suck.

i want to use that quote. prolly will.
new here.

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--- On Fri 03/04, Ozan Yarman < ozanyarman@superonline.com > wrote:
From: Ozan Yarman [mailto: ozanyarman@superonline.com]
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 07:07:49 +0200
Subject: [tuning] Musical Eugenics... ouch!

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<DIV>Pete, I now wish you had the oppurtunity to lecture some of the half-witted
babblers around here who persist in identifying every other culture on the
planet as inferior and insipid (particularly the Western tradition-which,
ironically, is endorsed by the state as part of a reckless
outdated agenda). They cease not polluting young minds
with extreme doses of nationalist indoctrination which
eventually lead to toxic isolation and reactionist fanaticism.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cordially,</DIV>
<DIV>Ozan</DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title="ambassadorbob@yahoo.com" href="mailto:ambassadorbob@yahoo.com">Pete
McRae</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="tuning@yahoogroups.com"
href="mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com">tuning@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 03 Mart 2005 Per�embe 23:59 </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tuning] Re: new member
question from a theory class</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I hope you'll forgive any impertinence on my part for feeling the need to
chime in here, again.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Once again, a statement like that does a tremendous disservice to
intellectuals who are quite capable (to say the least) of discerning the
difference between "objective" quantification, and experiential "knowing", but
who may be skeptical towards the "science". </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I know from the flurry of nonsense that came from the very mention of
___, that "real" intellectuals are just as prey to their affections and
affectations as anyone else. And, I just met a physics professor who
insists on calling 12Tet a "well-temperament", presumably to obfuscate the
nature of his real agenda, which is preserving the institution as it serves
himself.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For my money, Western "functional" harmony is merely a function of
Western "teleological" or "pragmatic" considerations, NOT of
any particular physical reality, ie the overtone series. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If one considers a harmonic progression (eg V-I) in the Music Theory
class sense "profound", or insipid and sentimental (as I do), what does
that mean with respect to someone who considers an interval, or scale, or Rag,
or whatever, "devotional"? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The former probably does not believe that he or she is merely
buffeted by their own emotions, in other words they don't believe it's insipid
or sentimental, anymore than the latter believes that their devotion will
actually cure disease, or achieve enlighenment, in any time-constrained
fashion.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I hope we can keep the "debunking" on topic, and somehow mitigate so
much, pardon the expression, musical Eugenics.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Pete </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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