sensibles and leading tones

We as the Notayaz Turkish group have a current ongoing discussion about whether or not sensibles and leading tones play a part in maqams. My insistence is in the direction that the sensible, which is always the 7th degree of a particular key, can be feasibly translated to the obvious diatonical rhetoric of maqam music, where the "key" concept is not necessarily bound to the "fundamental tonic", which is unexceptionally perde-rast, but can be bound to a "relative tonic" such as the 3rd degree a.k.a perde-segah that is the "functional tonic" of such maqams as Segah and Huzzam. Thus, the sensible is still the 7th degree from the "functional tonic" which can modulate to any degree in the scale unless "key transposition" is made.

Any thoughts?
Ozan Yarman

Ozan,

To begin to have any useful thoughts on this topic would require at least a
listening knowledge of maqam music, in particular those maqams with a
"functional tonic" as you describe.

Where can we uninitiated hear some samples of "such maqams as Segah and
Huzzam", and also of maqams that do not use a "functional tonic"?
(Preferably without having to spend large $$$ at amazon.com!)

Regards,
Yahya
-----Original Message-----
From: Ozan Yarman

We as the Notayaz Turkish group have a current ongoing discussion about
whether or not sensibles and leading tones play a part in maqams. My
insistence is in the direction that the sensible, which is always the 7th
degree of a particular key, can be feasibly translated to the obvious
diatonical rhetoric of maqam music, where the "key" concept is not
necessarily bound to the "fundamental tonic", which is unexceptionally
perde-rast, but can be bound to a "relative tonic" such as the 3rd degree
a.k.a perde-segah that is the "functional tonic" of such maqams as Segah and
Huzzam. Thus, the sensible is still the 7th degree from the "functional
tonic" which can modulate to any degree in the scale unless "key
transposition" is made.

Any thoughts?
Ozan Yarman
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Yahya, for the moment I can recommend these sites:

http://www.maqamworld.com/
http://www.turkmusikisi.com/nazariyat/default.asp

Cordially,
Ozan
----- Original Message -----
From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 24 Ocak 2005 Pazartesi 8:24
Subject: RE: [tuning] sensibles and leading tones

Ozan,

To begin to have any useful thoughts on this topic would require at least a listening knowledge of maqam music, in particular those maqams with a "functional tonic" as you describe.

Where can we uninitiated hear some samples of "such maqams as Segah and Huzzam", and also of maqams that do not use a "functional tonic"? (Preferably without having to spend large $$$ at amazon.com!)

Regards,
Yahya