MUSIC BASED ON TOMBAK SPECTRUM/ Wilson neutral third scale

I would imagine that this is a symbiotic relationship with both the instrument design and the scale influencing each other.
I realized that i should call you attention this
http://www.anaphoria.com/RAST.PDF
which utilizes two MOS a neutral third apart, Wilson using for this example the 27/22. If one wanted to use the square root of 3/2 he shows the MOS on page 10 and 11
On Pages 4 and 5 he takes the scale out far enough to show the schismatic equivalents of both 5 and 7 limit intervals

> From: "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@superonline.com>
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>My brother, it is supremely interesting that the oriental dumbek-tombak produces the sesquitone, a fundamental element in the construction of several maqams.
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Dear Kraig,

I know of the link you specified and read it a little beforehand. What I find interesting is how the `technologically under-developed` Easterners manufactured drums that apparently harmonize with the sesquitonal structure of a significant number of maqams. Is a similar phenomenon applicable to Western percussions? This could be a topic worthy of research.

Cordially,
Ozan
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From: Kraig Grady
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Sent: 11 Ocak 2005 Salı 19:25
Subject: [tuning] MUSIC BASED ON TOMBAK SPECTRUM/ Wilson neutral third scale

I would imagine that this is a symbiotic relationship with both the
instrument design and the scale influencing each other.
I realized that i should call you attention this
http://www.anaphoria.com/RAST.PDF
which utilizes two MOS a neutral third apart, Wilson using for this
example the 27/22. If one wanted to use the square root of 3/2 he shows
the MOS on page 10 and 11
On Pages 4 and 5 he takes the scale out far enough to show the
schismatic equivalents of both 5 and 7 limit intervals

Hi Ozan!
Obviously neither of us buy the idea of technically underdeveloped recognizing that there are all types of 'technologies' which the west overlooks in the haste of its own pet projects. look at gong making. The west can barely compete. Percussion instruments have been more imported into the west, than developed there. It is true though that the western instruments have modified it shape as the scale has changed. while most mideast scales sound fine on these instruments, many of the far east instruments do not. i remember using a cello with my 'slendro" and no matter where we placed the pitch, it didn't sound correct. this i believe had to do with the timbre. On the other hand the rebab even when fluctuating in the area of these tunings seems to sound fine.

> From: "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@superonline.com>
>Subject: Re: MUSIC BASED ON TOMBAK SPECTRUM/ Wilson neutral third scale
>
>Dear Kraig, >
>I know of the link you specified and read it a little beforehand. What I find interesting is how the `technologically under-developed` Easterners manufactured drums that apparently harmonize with the sesquitonal structure of a significant number of maqams. Is a similar phenomenon applicable to Western percussions? This could be a topic worthy of research.
>
>Cordially,
>Ozan
> >

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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Dear Kraig, I'm glad to see in your example that hubris is not always a common universal element in our respective societies. The fact that there is some kind of development that makes sense within a particular culture and does not outside that context is important to ponder upon. I always found cultural imposition distasteful especially since I'm situated in a country whose past is besmeared with senseless `reforms`. A great deal of our heritage has been lost thanks to such ignorant manipulations. It is fortunate that I was quick enough to realize the value of tradition. Art should not be made a subject of politics, but rather, politics a subject of art.

Which reminds me, are you aware of the musical dichotomy in Turkey where they have begun using Western electro-acoustic and stage-percussion instruments next to the shunned and revised historical instruments for popular effect? The results of 12-ET jumbled with snare drums employed without regard for either aesthetics or moral values is unsettling to say the least (not that I'm against any temperament, mind you)... That is perhaps why I choose to stay indoors.

Cordially,
Ozan
----- Original Message -----
From: Kraig Grady
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Sent: 12 Ocak 2005 Çarşamba 18:02
Subject: [tuning] MUSIC BASED ON TOMBAK SPECTRUM/ Wilson neutral third scale

Hi Ozan!
Obviously neither of us buy the idea of technically underdeveloped
recognizing that there are all types of 'technologies' which the west
overlooks in the haste of its own pet projects. look at gong making. The
west can barely compete. Percussion instruments have been more imported
into the west, than developed there. It is true though that the western
instruments have modified it shape as the scale has changed. while most
mideast scales sound fine on these instruments, many of the far east
instruments do not. i remember using a cello with my 'slendro" and no
matter where we placed the pitch, it didn't sound correct. this i
believe had to do with the timbre. On the other hand the rebab even when
fluctuating in the area of these tunings seems to sound fine.