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foum (argh! a cross-post from MMM!)

🔗Jacob <jbarton@rice.edu>

11/20/2004 10:09:46 PM

this just out:

foum, or Xenharmonic Variations on a Theme by Mozart (jacob barton, microtonal
player piano) is available for download at my "fun with xenharmonicity" soundclick
site. If you've heard "foum"...it's more of that tasty foum. Nice overall form too, I think.
Seven variations. Each in a different root of two.

The accompanying MIDI and score [probably some dialect of sagittal] will be
forthcoming, with any luck.

I'm particularly interested in your reactions to the tempos; some of them still
feel a little wrong to me. Also, are some variations too imitative of 12-tet for you? Also
this notion of an innate "mood" supplied by the tuning - any thoughts there? Also, what's
your favorite moment?

The "foum simultaneous" also up is just funny/interesting. I think you'll
experience it differently depending on whether you've heard the other version.

Thank goodness I finished that,
Jacob

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

11/21/2004 10:41:56 AM

>this just out:
>
>foum, or Xenharmonic Variations on a Theme by Mozart (jacob barton,
>microtonal player piano) is available for download at my "fun with
>xenharmonicity" soundclick site. If you've heard "foum"...it's more
>of that tasty foum.

Cool.

>Nice overall form too, I think. Seven variations.
>Each in a different root of two.

Agreed. What's the order of temperaments?

>The accompanying MIDI and score [probably some dialect of sagittal]
>will be forthcoming, with any luck.

Ehxcellent.

>I'm particularly interested in your reactions to the tempos; some of
>them still feel a little wrong to me.

They seem fine. The final variation, which you earlier posted as
"foum" is maybe a little slower here? That's good -- it was too
fast in the original. Also, why not upload a 128Kbps version of the
original? Also, why not upload a "-- preset extreme" LAME version
of the new piece? Also, why not fill out your ID3 tags, goddamnit.

>Also, are some variations too imitative of 12-tet for you?

Not sure what you're asking here...

>Also this notion of an innate "mood" supplied by the tuning - any
>thoughts there?

I've interpreted this to mean something like "timbre". It's only
something you'd notice after hearing many different pieces in each
temperament.

>Also, what's your favorite moment?

I like it all. The trad. (apparently 12-tET) theme. The slap on
the face of the following (13-tET?) first variation. The polyrhythms
around 1:45 are maybe my favorite part. The following near-JI
chords though are fantastic. Love the following novelty rag, though.
The dynamic change at 4:07 is maybe too extreme, or probably what's
wrong with it is that you can hear a smooth ramping on either side --
if it were cleanly terraced it might work. The following walking
boogie-woogie section is BAD! Love the pattern at 5:30 (which
ends by 5:40). The impressionist variation is outstanding! I'm
still trying to decide if the tune at 6:20 and 6:30 is working as
a variation. I suppose episodes are allowed... it's "wake up,
suddenly, you're in love"...

(googling)

...which is apparently a Billy Ocean tune. The carnival of Venice
thing at the end seems to end ubruptly. Maybe this file is
truncated? I've got 6,825,691 bytes.

>The "foum simultaneous" also up is just funny/interesting. I think
>you'll experience it differently depending on whether you've heard
>the other version.

Er...

>Thank goodness I finished that,

Welcome to the ranks of the very few who've completed a significant
piece of music in an alternate tuning! (Not that I am one.)

-Carl

🔗Jacob <jbarton@rice.edu>

11/21/2004 11:21:50 AM

Argh! It was truncated. Fixed. Total time should be 7:35ish.

I think Soundclick slurps off the ID3 tags when it has to reconvert from the higher-bitrate
files I keep sending it; fixed that on this one too.

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

11/21/2004 12:20:44 PM

>Argh! It was truncated. Fixed. Total time should be 7:35ish.
>
>I think Soundclick slurps off the ID3 tags when it has to reconvert
>from the higher-bitrate files I keep sending it; fixed that on this
>one too.

Cool, thanks. OK, re. your RFC on tempos. The section that was
missing is too fast. It can stand being too fast for effect, ala
Nancarrow. But it can't stand being *too* fast.

-Carl

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

11/21/2004 12:22:03 PM

>Argh! It was truncated. Fixed. Total time should be 7:35ish.
>
>I think Soundclick slurps off the ID3 tags when it has to reconvert
>from the higher-bitrate files I keep sending it; fixed that on this
>one too.

Honestly, I don't know why you people use soundclick. It makes
getting the music very hard. It sometimes crashes my browser.
And apparently it not only insists on hosting low-bitrate files,
it reconverts files automagically (a double-lossy process). Gag.

-Carl