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Re: [tuning]  quick&painless "dicot" question

🔗czhang23@aol.com

1/26/2004 1:55:44 AM

In a message dated 2004:01:25 11:59:32 PM, Wernerlinden quotes me & writes:

>>_Gung Hay Fat Choi!!!_ ... _mung xuan giap than!!!_... _tahun
>> gerap!!!!!!_
>> Hanuman Zhang, _Gomi no sensei_ [Master of junk]
>
> - - ? ? ? - - ? ? ? - - ? ? ? - - ? ? ? - - ? ? ? - - ? ? ?
>
>Sorry, but my chinese is not very fluent, indeed, it consits of
>0 (zero) words.
>So I might humbly ask you for explanation.

No problem...

_Gung Hay Fat Choi!!!_ is Cantonese for Happy New Year

_mung xuan giap than!!!_ is Vietnamese for same

_tahun gerap!!!!!!_ is Indonesian, literally "year new"

>This furthermore, as I am from Germany, where the art of reading between
>the lines is not very well developped (anymore).
>So I am not certain how ironic your response was.

Being honest and open and most friendly :) Being rude or crass or
nasty, etc..I have nothing to gain...

>Actually, I came to this scale as a critical remark to Paul Hindemith's
>(1895 - 1964) studies in counterpoint and harmony theory.

Interesting. Tell me a little more perhaps, eh?

>But please tell me, if that scale has been described in your culture, I
>am not aware of any predecessor.

Various ethnomusicologists have done research into Tang Dynasty musics
and their influence on Southeast Asian tribal musics and Japanese Togaku/Gagaku
... a common theoritical thread thru out is implied chains of minor chroma -
"minor/major 3rds" or even "diminished 4ths". And this seems to have also
influenced some Indonesian/Balinese gamelan scales - of course, with much more
wilder variation and mutation...

>And, please find an example of my music in that scale (which I called
"Septatonic")
>at:
>
>http://sonic-arts.org/werner_linden/Septatonic1.mp3

Danke, Komrad :)

---
Hanuman Zhang, _Gomi no sensei_ [Master of junk]

"To live is to scrounge, taking what you can in order to survive. So,
since living is scrounging, the result of our efforts is to amass a pile of
rubbish." - Chuang Tzu/Zhuangzi, China, 4th Century BCE

"The most beautiful order is a heap of sweepings piled up at random." -
Heraclitus, Greece, 5th Century BCE

"...So what is life for? Life is for beauty and substance and sound and
colour; and even those are often forbidden by law [socio-cultural conventions].
. .Why not be free and live your own life? Why follow other people's rules
and live to please others?..." ~Lieh-Tzu/Liezi, Taoist Sage (c. 450- 375 BCE)

"Taoism in a nutshell: Shit Happens. Roll with the Punches. Hang 10 - Go
with the Flow!" - anon. California surferBeatnik, c.1950's/1960's

Voices of the Past:
http://advancement.uark.edu/pubs/Research_Frontiers/fall_2001/05_Feature1.html

At its peak, the Tang Dynasty (618-906 CE) of China a mixture of cultural
influences were reflected in the music of the times.People traveled from
other countries, including Japan, Mongolia, India, Korea & Turkey, to learn about
the Tang culture.But the multi-racial, multi-cultural era waned at the end of
the Tang.China,one of the greatest cultural & military powers in history,
began to close in on itself, the rulers closed the country's borders - fearing the
destruction of their civilization.The rich, diverse music of the Tang, along
with that of the surrounding cultures, was lost or destroyed. Bits have been
found & the rest is theory & re-construction...
"The whole world of musics and instruments lives around us....I am
interested in a 'transethnic,' a planetary music." - Lou Harrison ("...Europe is a
region he called Northwest Asia...")
The power of education & culture to transcend social and political
differences is still largely untapped...

Ars sine scientia nihil est. Ars imitatur Naturam in sua operatione.