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Test, and question about follow-up texts to "Genesis"

🔗Eric T Knechtges <knechtge@msu.edu>

1/20/2004 7:47:38 AM

Hi all, First of all, this is a test to see if my e-mail address is still posting to this list correctly.
Second...I'm sure this has been asked on this list before, but I'll ask it again, and you can respond to me privately... are there any good texts/online resources/etc. which can serve as a follow-up to Partch's "Genesis"? For instance, texts that discuss some "music theory" of harmonic progressions within the Monophonic Fabric (other than the short cursory chapter on resolution in "Genesis"), or that discuss possibilities inherent in higher n-limit "Monophonic fabrics", etc. It seems that using traditional tonal music theory to describe JI phenomenon is like trying to put a bull into a baby's playpen. My Master's Thesis is likely going to be an electroacoustic piece which integrally uses Just Intonation concepts, so I'd like to be as well-read and well-versed as I can. (And, of course, I'm messing around in Scala with Partch's 11-limit Monophonic Fabric ad naueseam -- what an incredible program!!!) Eric

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

1/20/2004 10:44:50 AM

Hi Eric,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Eric T Knechtges" <knechtge@m...> wrote:
> First of all, this is a test to see if my e-mail address is still
> posting to this list correctly.

Apparantly so!

> are there any good texts/online resources/etc. which can serve
> as a follow-up to Partch's "Genesis"?

I'm assuming you've been through the David Doty "Just Intonation Primer", but maybe a library with back issues of their journal '1/1' might be of value. Also, I would check in at Kyle Gann's site:

http://www.kylegann.com/

...and possibly contact him directly; he recently had an article in 1/1 entitled "A Whole Different Serving of Tapioca: Exploring Just Intonation Dissonance" (in case you weren't aware of it).

I'm sure others on the list will have pointers to resources as well...

Cheers,
Jon

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <paul@stretch-music.com>

1/21/2004 6:11:13 AM

Eric, #5 would surely have to be Prent Rodgers:

http://home.comcast.net/~prodgers13/

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <paul@stretch-music.com>

1/21/2004 8:39:14 AM

Eric,

I forgot this in my original message. Here's another idea that spun
off from Partch's theories, and is half-seriously referred to as "the
chords Partch forgot":

http://x31eq.com/ass.htm
http://x31eq.com/erlichs.htm

-Paul

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <paul@stretch-music.com>

1/30/2004 12:21:52 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Eric T Knechtges" <knechtge@m...>
wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi Eric!

> First of all, this is a test to see if my e-mail address is
still
> posting to this list correctly.
> Second...I'm sure this has been asked on this list before, but
I'll ask
> it again, and you can respond to me privately... are there any good
> texts/online resources/etc. which can serve as a follow-up to
Partch's
> "Genesis"?

(1) The most prominent author in the "Partchian JI" field is Erv
Wilson, a friend of Partch's who's one of the most thoughtful and
prolific microtonal theorists ever. His writings can be dense and
forbidding, with most of the information embedded in beautiful
diagrams. Luckily for you, some of us here have spent large amounts
of time thinking about and discussing his work and have even having
done some of the same work independently. Many of Wilson's works are
collected here:

http://www.anaphoria.com/wilson.html

Some of these papers include generalized (hexagonal-array) keyboard
diagrams for Partch's 'Monophonic Fabric'. One paper which discusses
Partch's Diamonds, as well as some of Wilson's analogous
constructions (which have been used by many JI composers), is

http://www.anaphoria.com/dal.PDF

I put together the following article which focuses on just one
diagram in the paper above and attempts a gentle explanation:

http://tonalsoft.com/td/erlich/paul-cps.htm

(2) The 'anaphoria' website is the creation of Kraig Grady, an
instrument-maker, composer, and theorist in Partch's tradition.
Browse around the directories there and you will be treated to a
wealth of Partch-inspired items.

(3) If you're interested in a tuning system which approximates (to
within a couple of cents) Partchian harmonies -- and even, if
desired, the entire 'Monophonic Fabric' -- but is
generated 'linearly', as conventional Western tonal materials are, a
number of composers and theorists here have been working on a system
first proposed in 1975:

http://www.anaphoria.com/secor.PDF

The system was rediscovered on this list and has spawned an enormous
wealth of posts, beautiful diagrams, and even some music ;) Here's
just one page on this:

http://tonalsoft.com/enc/miracle.htm

The discussions on this were one reason a separate list, tuning-math,
was started for the more math-heavy discussions . . .

#5 would surely have to be Prent Rodgers:

http://home.comcast.net/~prodgers13/

(9) Skipping now to the bottom of the list ;) Much of my own work
deals with Just Intonation. Take a look at

http://lumma.org/tuning/erlich/erlich-tFoT.pdf

and

http://tonalsoft.com/td/erlich/intropblock1.htm and sequel
which link, at the end, to a consideration of Partch's 43-tone scale
(the 'Monophonic Fabric').

Here's another idea that spun
off from Partch's theories, and is half-seriously referred to as "the
chords Partch forgot":

http://x31eq.com/ass.htm
http://x31eq.com/erlichs.htm

Also inspired by Partch (and Yasser) is
http://lumma.org/tuning/erlich/erlich-decatonic.pdf . . .

Hope to hear more from you, and love to answer any questions you
might have,
Paul