Re: [tuning] Re: The beauty question...Gene

To Gene, thank you for your explanation of the below statement:

> It would be pretty hard--in fact probably impossible--for Jon or
> anyone else to tell the difference between a performance of Partch in
> hemiennealimmal or in JI.
>

As you have explained it, I would agree with you. Partch actually uses JI to
approximate spoken language. In the Li Po song, "In the springtime on the
southside of the Yangzee Kiang, Partch employs plus and minus signs next to the
ratios. The ratios are the closest set for capturing to spoken vernacular
that Partch wants to express authoratively ( or at least as accurately as he
can).

> For future reference, if you are going to rain contempt on someone for
> saying something you don't agree with, you should wait until you know
> what it is they said. It also helps to give a direct answer to a
> direct question, and here is the answer to yours:

Actually, this issue was a sidebar concern. I have been corrected in that I
thought you were using a fancy name for Ted Mook's practice. You were
speaking of a theoretical possibility and I was anchored in practice. There is no
contempt intended here, certainly not on the personal level.

> How well are you going to be able to use beats, during a performance
> of Partch's music, to determine that something is off from 11/9 by a
> third of a cent?
>

Frankly, I never use beats to tune Partch. I measure melodically. And I
doubt if a third of a cent...so I concur.

> I will ask that you treat me with more respect that you did.

I'm sure we should all be more respectful to each other. What's more we
should all recognize the special abilities and interests of each of the List's
correspondents. Somehow, there needs to be a stronger place here for musicians
to "try" to explain what they are doing, even if the scientist's on the list
want "proof."

best, Johnny Reinhard

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Afmmjr@a... wrote:

> I'm sure we should all be more respectful to each other. What's
more we
> should all recognize the special abilities and interests of each of
the List's
> correspondents.

Let's work on it.