noisy "irrational tunings/scales"

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HZ>> [ . . . ] I [ . . .] will be getting a
HZ>> bamboo devil chaser buzz stick...
>
PB>>Woohoo! Amazing how rattles and bells and such
PB>noisemakers are considered auspicious for
PB>extricating demons in so many cultures.

HZ> My theory is that inharmonic spectra - being neither Just Intonation or
Equal HZ>Tempered - are audiotory "gateways" to the Irrational Realms. It is
not without HZ>coincidence that tunings/scales based on inharmonic spectra (i.e.
Indonesian HZ>Pelog, African Chopi xylophone scales, Australian Aborigine
digeridoo) are called HZ>"irrational tunings" by some theorists (Jean-Claude
Risset, who is a major HZ>opinionated theorist in this area, has stated the future
of music is in irrational HZ>tunings).

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>
>the Zoroastrian teaching that it is a sin for a person to be boring.

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> this area, has stated the future of music is in irrational HZ>tunings).

Could you please clarify what you understand by irrational tunning. n-ET is
pretty much irrational by itself. For example the tempered semitone =
2**(1/12) is as irrational as you can get.

Thanks

Carlos

I think the future of music is wherever the future of music is. -Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carlos <garciasuarez@y...> wrote:
> > this area, has stated the future of music is in irrational HZ>tunings).
>
> Could you please clarify what you understand by irrational tunning. n-ET is
> pretty much irrational by itself. For example the tempered semitone =
> 2**(1/12) is as irrational as you can get.
>
> Thanks
>
> Carlos

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
> I think the future of music is wherever the future of music is. -
Justin

That's a tautology.

Kalle

exactly

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Kalle Aho" <kalleaho@m...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
> > I think the future of music is wherever the future of music is. -
> Justin
>
> That's a tautology.
>
> Kalle

on 8/25/03 11:21 AM, Justin Weaver <improvist@usa.net> wrote:

> exactly

Here here! A tautology worth celebrating. No one can anticipate where our
music will go. If we could anticipate it, the results would be
disappointing.

>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Kalle Aho" <kalleaho@m...> wrote:
>> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
>>> I think the future of music is wherever the future of music is. -
>> Justin
>>
>> That's a tautology.
>>
>> Kalle
>
>
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In a message dated 2003:08:25 02:51:30 AM, Carlos writes:

>> this area, has stated the future of music is in irrational HZ>tunings).
>
>Could you please clarify what you understand by irrational tunning.

Irrational tuning - "tunings derived from either inharmonic series or
iterated systems . . . (typically using transcendental [or irrational]
numbers as scale-steps)." --- Brian McLaren

>n-ET is pretty much irrational by itself. For example the tempered semitone
=
>2**(1/12) is as irrational as you can get.

LOL. Reaaaally ;) 0_o? I must point out that other tempered semitones
also qualify nicely, i.e. 92.307692 (13tET), 105 (a non-octave ET), 109.09~
(11tET) and 133.33~ cents (9tET) ;)

---
Hanuman Zhang, musical mad scientist & the Yves Klein Bleu Aardvark (the
Younger Aardvark to Warren "the Scarlet Aardvark" Burt)

> >"Any sufficiently advanced music is indistinguishable from noise"

> >(after Arthur C. Clarke's aphorism that any sufficiently advanced

> >technology is indistinguisable from magic.)" - John Chalmers, in email
response
to the quote "the difference between music and noise is all in your head"

>

I remember all to well the music still to be written
-Neal Casava in 'War and Pieces' 1989

>
> From: Kurt Bigler <kkb@breathsense.com>
> Subject: Re: Re: noisy "irrational tunings/scales"
>
> on 8/25/03 11:21 AM, Justin Weaver <improvist@usa.net> wrote:
>
> > exactly
>
> Here here! A tautology worth celebrating. No one can anticipate where our
> music will go. If we could anticipate it, the results would be
> disappointing.
>
>

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