Subject: Re: Interesting idea - Musical Tuning and Human Biology - today's NewScientist - London

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We forget from the offset that Partch could not duplicate speech in 12 at all and had to go toward something closer
to 41. Also those musical languages that are speech based are not in anyway come out toward 12 or 5 limit. Look at
your balophones scales in africa. Here it is interested to note that upper octaves do not correspond with the lower
octaves mainly because as a person get excited his intonations raised and the interval size change. You find the same
thing on these balaphones where notes in lower octaves are different than ones in lower. Also let us also notice that
those languages which have tonal elements, their choices are not either 5 limit or ant 12 tone matrix. Both of these
are more the result of working with sine tones. aAlso the recognition of "consonance" is not universal unless you ask
the people to pick intervals that don't beat. which of course you will get the result you want. I have never heard
anyone talk in 5 limit ofr in 12 ET.

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kraig grady wrote:

> We forget from the offset that Partch could not duplicate speech in 12 at all and had to go toward something closer
> to 41. Also those musical languages that are speech based are not in anyway come out toward 12 or 5 limit...

Yes, and Vicentino also advocated a microtonal system for expressing voice patterns. But the paper in questions only deals with the overtone structure of small voice clips, not "melodic" intervals.

Graham

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Graham Breed <graham@m...> wrote:
> kraig grady wrote:
>
> > We forget from the offset that Partch could not duplicate speech
in 12 at all and had to go toward something closer
> > to 41. Also those musical languages that are speech based are not
in anyway come out toward 12 or 5 limit...
>
> Yes, and Vicentino also advocated a microtonal system for
expressing
> voice patterns. But the paper in questions only deals with the
overtone
> structure of small voice clips, not "melodic" intervals.
>
>
> Graham

then the paper is repeating what we knew all along.