Bells

Dave wrote:

``I have shown that they prove no such thing. Of course it may well be
true, but any evidence for it is completely lost in the noise of
general mistuning. We should have realised that there could be no
evidence for or against tempering when the standard deviation of most
pitches and intervals is of a similar size to (or larger than) the
comma.''

I pointed that out right at the start, didn't I?

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>
> ``I have shown that they prove no such thing. Of course it may well be
> true, but any evidence for it is completely lost in the noise of
> general mistuning. We should have realised that there could be no
> evidence for or against tempering when the standard deviation of most
> pitches and intervals is of a similar size to (or larger than) the
> comma.''
>
> I pointed that out right at the start, didn't I?

Indeed you did, Gene. Here's your first post on the topic.
/tuning/topicId_5844.html#44836

and you mentioned the problem again in
/tuning/topicId_5844.html#44844
/tuning/topicId_5844.html#44959
/tuning/topicId_5844.html#44862

But even though I have described two justly intoned scales that fit
the data just as well as the tempered ones, he refuses to accept that
there is no evidence for or against tempering!

Martin,

can you tell us what _would_ convince you of that? I'm afraid you
can't simply redefine tempering so that it includes justly intoned scales!

Regards,
-- Dave Keenan