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🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

8/4/2003 11:13:41 AM

Carl tells me that he made the original png, and I didn't ask
persmission, so I've deleted it. I will, however, say that this
strikes me as incredibly childish. Carl, grow up.

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

8/4/2003 2:23:15 PM

>Carl tells me that he made the original png, and I didn't ask
>persmission, so I've deleted it. I will, however, say that
>this strikes me as incredibly childish. Carl, grow up.

I didn't ask you to delete it, I just meant it's polite to
ask first.

Anyone who's read my posts here over the last 6 years knows
I'm all about sharing information and against owning it.
But, just so I can bring up Nazis, what if Nazis took and
used one of your compositions as their anthem? Wouldn't it
be nice if they asked first, giving you the chance to first
voice your disapproval?

When we create, we bring things into the world, and that
puts us in a position of responsibility. While I think
traditional ownership of information is absurd, some sort of
protocol that helps us bear the responsibility of sharing
the results of our time and effort is a Good Thing.

I didn't ask Ms. Carlos or the Computer Music Journal if I
could scan that graphic and publish it on the web. I
thought it was within normal academic fair use. But maybe
she wouldn't like it if it weren't reposted on yahoo. Or,
maybe she'd love it. But because I'm the one who created
the digital copy, I'm somewhat responsible if she didn't like
it. So please, link to lumma.org, don't mirror, unless you
have a good reason. This is really standard web practice.

Thanks,

-Carl

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

8/4/2003 2:35:31 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <ekin@l...> wrote:

> Anyone who's read my posts here over the last 6 years knows
> I'm all about sharing information and against owning it.
> But, just so I can bring up Nazis, what if Nazis took and
> used one of your compositions as their anthem? Wouldn't it
> be nice if they asked first, giving you the chance to first
> voice your disapproval?

Microtonal Nazis is an idea which I find too stupifying to deal with.

> I didn't ask Ms. Carlos or the Computer Music Journal if I
> could scan that graphic and publish it on the web.

Then you have no basis for saying I should have asked your permission.
Anyway, the graphic looks suspiciously like one in Helmholz.

So please, link to lumma.org, don't mirror, unless you
> have a good reason. This is really standard web practice.

Mirrors are in some ways better than links. I've been wondering about
all of the work we put up on the web--Monzo's dictionary, my website
which I expect to grow into a valuable theory resource, and so forth.
What happens to them if someone dies, or there is some other mishap?
It would be better to turn all rights over to an umbrella
organization, and mirror the html.

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@lumma.org>

8/4/2003 2:52:57 PM

>> So please, link to lumma.org, don't mirror, unless you
>> have a good reason. This is really standard web practice.
>
>Mirrors are in some ways better than links. I've been wondering about
>all of the work we put up on the web--Monzo's dictionary, my website
>which I expect to grow into a valuable theory resource, and so forth.
>What happens to them if someone dies, or there is some other mishap?
>It would be better to turn all rights over to an umbrella
>organization, and mirror the html.

Well, there is some truth to this. Any good network has some
redundancy. The problem is getting everyone to agree on anything.
As you can see on tuning-math, we're still each using our own
language. It's getting better, but we're clearly not to the
point where we have anything to archive. Meanwhile, I'm really
glad about xenharmony.org, and I can't wait for the wedgie expo.

-Carl