Envelopes

What are the opinions as to the (non)-acceptability of sampled instrument patches
used in alternative tunings? If the instrument sampled (particularly if it's a keyboard
instrument with numerous strings) was tuned in 12tet, will it completely ruin the
simulated effect of a microtuned instrument when the pitch is eletronically
manipulated? Is there an efficient algorithmic solution to the problem? or is such a
solution intractible for real-time use? -Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:

> What are the opinions as to the (non)-acceptability of sampled
instrument patches
> used in alternative tunings? If the instrument sampled
(particularly if it's a keyboard
> instrument with numerous strings) was tuned in 12tet, will it
completely ruin the
> simulated effect of a microtuned instrument when the pitch is
eletronically
> manipulated?

No, so long as you don't make the retuning too great. An important
aspect is to have the samples themselves correctly tuned to 12-et,
however.

Yes, but why would you want your samples tuned in 12tet if your composition is
entirely in, say, 7-limit JI? -Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
>
>
> > What are the opinions as to the (non)-acceptability of sampled
> instrument patches
> > used in alternative tunings? If the instrument sampled
> (particularly if it's a keyboard
> > instrument with numerous strings) was tuned in 12tet, will it
> completely ruin the
> > simulated effect of a microtuned instrument when the pitch is
> eletronically
> > manipulated?
>
> No, so long as you don't make the retuning too great. An important
> aspect is to have the samples themselves correctly tuned to 12-et,
> however.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
> Yes, but why would you want your samples tuned in 12tet if your
composition is
> entirely in, say, 7-limit JI? -Justin

It doesn't matter if you want them that way or not--you're going to
get them that way, and then only if you are lucky and the samples are
not white-keys-only or half-octaves or something else of that sort.

Well, I guess this is a good argument for doing your own sampling. -Justin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Justin Weaver" <improvist@u...> wrote:
> > Yes, but why would you want your samples tuned in 12tet if your
> composition is
> > entirely in, say, 7-limit JI? -Justin
>
> It doesn't matter if you want them that way or not--you're going to
> get them that way, and then only if you are lucky and the samples are
> not white-keys-only or half-octaves or something else of that sort.