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Re: [tuning] Re: Vicentino in the Vatican

🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

7/7/2003 12:01:04 PM

I just purchased the complete works of Vicentino from Wisconsin (of all places). I thought there would be dots (.) over notes that would be microtones. Now, I think (since there are no dots at all, as in Vicentino's translated book)that microtonal intervals are in movements that are enharmonic (e.g., d# - eb). Still more to discover.

best, Johnny Reinhard

🔗Graham Breed <graham@microtonal.co.uk>

7/7/2003 12:36:42 PM

Afmmjr@aol.com wrote:
> I just purchased the complete works of Vicentino from Wisconsin (of all places). I thought there would be dots (.) over notes that would be microtones. Now, I think (since there are no dots at all, as in Vicentino's translated book)that microtonal intervals are in movements that are enharmonic (e.g., d# - eb). Still more to discover.

If this is the same book I saw in the British Library, it doesn't include the enharmonic works. The only ones that survive are the examples in Ancient Music Restored... and they don't count for the "complete works". There are a few bits of interesting chromaticism, but nothing beyond Gesualdo's level.

Graham

🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

7/7/2003 1:16:25 PM

I have the Kaufman edited Vicentino. I was suspicious that he did not include the more enharmonic examples because he took self-admitted editorial liberties for "practical reasons."

Where can I get "Ancient Music Restored?"

Thanks, Johnny

🔗Paul Erlich <perlich@aya.yale.edu>

7/7/2003 1:39:06 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> I just purchased the complete works of Vicentino from Wisconsin (of
>all places). I thought there would be dots (.) over notes that would
>be microtones. Now, I think (since there are no dots at all, as in
>Vicentino's translated book)that microtonal intervals are in
>movements that are enharmonic (e.g., d# - eb). Still more to
>discover.
>
> best, Johnny Reinhard

there are also works with the "dots" -- must not count as part of his
complete works for some reason. harold fortuin performed one of these
works, and handed out the score, at new england conservatory about a
year ago. why don't you e-mail him -- i'm sure he'd be happy to send
you a copy and whatever other info he has.

🔗Graham Breed <graham@microtonal.co.uk>

7/7/2003 3:02:18 PM

Afmmjr@aol.com wrote:

> Where can I get "Ancient Music Restored?"

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0300066015/qid=1057615118/sr=8-10/ref=sr_8_10/102-6230206-5016905?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

7/7/2003 4:16:14 PM

Isn't that something. I have this book. There is only one complete piece in
Vicentino's book with dots. And we had it performed last AFMM season. I bet
Harold Fortuin performed the same piece. The manuscripts are supposed to be
in the library in Wroclaw, Poland.

best, Johnny