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Re: Digest Number 294

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@xxx.xxxx>

8/27/1999 6:43:49 AM

>Whatever u do, dont give IRCAM money for the use of their software,
>or rather, betaware. It's the most ridiculous scam going, heck the
>"subscription" form even says they don't guarantee the software will work.
>he he he ;-{\> I speak from experience.
>
>Feel free to disagree, but I've corresponded with others who feel the same
>in one way or another...

I'm not aware of much worthwhile coming out of IRCAM, or CCRMA, or that
Brain Opera thing at MIT. Good examples of what happens when you have
means before a mission.

>Many other sequences sound just awful when retuned in this brutal
>fashion, but I'm poised to dig into the heart of fixing up the glitchy
>places. There's a LOT of wonderful sound yet to come, I'm convinced!!

Me too!

>JIRelay has not yet advanced, but it shares 90% or more of the code in
>the project I'm working on. I hope to have an interesting version
>available by the end of the year.

Cool. Please post when it does!

-C.

🔗Bill Schottstaedt <bil@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/28/1999 9:38:46 AM

> I'm not aware of much worthwhile coming out of IRCAM, or CCRMA, or that
> Brain Opera thing at MIT. Good examples of what happens when you have
> means before a mission.

Hunh? I guess I should ignore comments this stupid, but I'll
at least point out that we (ccrma) don't charge anything for
our software -- most of it is available via anonymous ftp
under the GPL or some similar license.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/28/1999 1:24:10 PM

Bill Schottstaedt wrote:

> From: Bill Schottstaedt <bil@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
>
> > I'm not aware of much worthwhile coming out of IRCAM, or CCRMA, or that
> > Brain Opera thing at MIT. Good examples of what happens when you have
> > means before a mission.
>
> Hunh? I guess I should ignore comments this stupid, but I'll
> at least point out that we (ccrma) don't charge anything for
> our software -- most of it is available via anonymous ftp
> under the GPL or some similar license.

He merely said he was unaware! I for one have not heard of CCRMA for which I
apologize. It seems unlike the sciences, the arts have seemed to benefited
little from such organizations. These institutions seem to have produced
little outside of groundbreaking technologies for new commercial products.
They are further limited by the fact that the "mass" that makes them up,
requires of its members the acceptance of the views of those with the most
power. The members therefore cannot present ideas that might undermine or
even ignore the directions of this elite. These institutions nip more ideas
in the bud more than nurture the possibilities of new ones.
I do not think that Carl was addressing you as an individual, just an
organization you have some relationship to. After all , can they take credit
for your work!

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com