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Mahler MIDI for lucytuning

🔗monz <monz@attglobal.net>

6/15/2003 9:29:03 AM

hi Charles,

> From: "Charles Lucy" <lucy@harmonics.com>
> To: "tuninggroup" <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:37 AM
> Subject: [tuning] 18th century England - response to
> 2 odd comments in the latest tuning digest
>
>
> <snip>
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> Now which Mahler symphony was I attempting to analyse
> and LucyTune? I began on 7th, and then found the midi
> files were for 5th. Back to the library for more
> Mahler scores ;-)

the one i'd really like to hear is the 7th.
you can find my MIDI version of the 1st movement
of the 7th here:

http://www.classicalarchives.com/main/m.html

(if that link doesn't work, just use
classicalarchives.com and click on "M")

BTW, the copyrights on Mahler's work have
just run out over the past few years, and
so they're now public domain. the scores
are being reprinted by discount houses such
as Dover, and they're much cheaper than they
used to be. (i spent a fortune on them when
i was young.)

-monz

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

6/15/2003 1:24:42 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:

> the one i'd really like to hear is the 7th.

In lieu of an actual meantone version, I'm working on getting a grail
version. You could help by telling me which key signatures are used
in each of the seven sections.

🔗monz <monz@attglobal.net>

6/15/2003 1:29:47 PM

hi Gene,

> From: "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@svpal.org>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:24 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Mahler MIDI for lucytuning
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:
>
> > the one i'd really like to hear is the 7th.
>
> In lieu of an actual meantone version, I'm working
> on getting a grail version. You could help by telling
> me which key signatures are used in each of the seven
> sections.

yikes! ... for Mahler's 7th, i'd have to give you
a long list of every key change, and there are a
lot of them.

but complicating things even more, as i've said
the 7th is perhaps Mahler's most harmonically
complex and experimental piece. there are many
sections where the actual key changes even tho
he didn't make a change of key-signature.

and then on top of that, this was also Mahler's
foremost foray into experimenting with Schoenberg's
idea of chords built in 4ths instead of 3rds,
which would probably imply a tuning closer to
Pythogorean or 12edo.

but anyway, i do already have the list of key-signatures
written out from long ago. i'll type it out and email
it to you. there are points within each of the
seven different MIDI-files where you should specify
a change of key.

-monz