Listening to grail-tuned Bach

I retuned Bach's WTC I, scored for woodwinds, via the rms grail set to
C and cut two disks with the idea of finding whether I prefer the rms
or JI version of grail. It can hardly claim to be authentic, since the
tempering is much more pronounced than what Bach would have used, but
it made for striking contrasts between the keys, each of which to me
worked as music. I uploaded a zipped file to tuning_files; you can do
what you like with it but what I did was render it via midi and burn CDs.

Should Bach be played with microtonal thirds? It works for me.

>I retuned Bach's WTC I, scored for woodwinds, via the rms grail set to
>C and cut two disks with the idea of finding whether I prefer the rms
>or JI version of grail.

And which did you prefer, or are you still working on it?

-Carl

>>I retuned Bach's WTC I, scored for woodwinds, via the rms grail set to
>>C and cut two disks with the idea of finding whether I prefer the rms
>>or JI version of grail.
>
>And which did you prefer, or are you still working on it?

Interestingly, a while back a company called Q-Up Arts did a piano
sample (available for a variety of synths) called the Holy Grail Piano.
I think it was one of the first big 20-bit samples. I had downloaded
the mp3 demo of it. The demo mentions that the sample set included
both equal temperament and a well temperament of their own creation,
which they called "The Holy Grail".

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:
> >I retuned Bach's WTC I, scored for woodwinds, via the rms grail set to
> >C and cut two disks with the idea of finding whether I prefer the rms
> >or JI version of grail.
>
> And which did you prefer, or are you still working on it?

I've got to make two more CDs, and am trying to figure if it would be
a fair comparison if I used a circle-of-fifths ordering this time.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@l...> wrote:

> I think it was one of the first big 20-bit samples. I had downloaded
> the mp3 demo of it. The demo mentions that the sample set included
> both equal temperament and a well temperament of their own creation,
> which they called "The Holy Grail".

Dang! Do you think I should change the name?

>> I think it was one of the first big 20-bit samples. I had downloaded
>> the mp3 demo of it. The demo mentions that the sample set included
>> both equal temperament and a well temperament of their own creation,
>> which they called "The Holy Grail".
>
>Dang! Do you think I should change the name?

Nah. -C.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> Dang! Do you think I should change the name?

You could always use Peter Boyle's catch-phrase - "Holy Crap!"

Cheers,
Jon

Greetings Gene and Jon and ALL!

>--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> > Dang! Do you think I should change the name?
>At 02:47 AM 6/5/2003, Jon replies:
>You could always use Peter Boyle's catch-phrase - "Holy Crap!"

Holy Smoke & Mirrors
Holy Moly
Holy Toledo
Grailing out
You've got Grrail!
Wholly Grail
Just Grail
Eureka Bar & Grail
Holy Cow
Holy of Holies
Nee!

<giggle>

May you drink deep from the Grail,
and never suffer thirst!

Drumming Peace, R
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........................................Waste IT." -- Brad Blanton
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"In a cookie factory, different cookies are baked in the shape of animals, cars, people, and airplanes. They all have different names and forms, but they are all made from the same dough, and they all taste the same. In the same way, all things in the universe - the sun, the moon, the stars, mountains, rivers, people, and so forth - have different names and forms, but they are all made from the same substance. The universe is organized into pairs of opposites: light and darkness, man and woman, sound and silence, good and bad. But all these opposites are mutual, because they are made from the same substance. Their names and their forms are different, but their substance is the same. Names and forms are made by your thinking. If you are not thinking and have no attachment to name and form, then all substance is one. Your don't know mind cuts off all thinking. This is your substance. Substance has no name and no form. Energy, mind, God, and matter are all name and form. Substance is the Absolute. Having name and form is having opposites. So the whole world is like the blind men fighting among themselves. Not understanding yourself is not understanding the truth. That is why there is fighting among ourselves. If all the people in the world understood themselves, they would attain the Absolute. Then the world would be at peace."
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