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Re: Fertile fields in all directions?

🔗Zhang2323@xxx.xxx

8/21/1999 12:14:14 AM

In a message dated 8/21/99 2:47:30 AM, stearns@capecod.net wrote:

>I was reading your (Equal Tempered Scales are "unnatural" & smell of
>Eurocentric mathematics & Capitalistic mass production/interchangeable
>parts & "Globalist (Pop) Culture") post, and thought that I'd email
>you off-list(thereby only boring you instead of everyone else who has
>certainly had to endure me droning on in a similar fashion to many
>times already), to perhaps offer a differing point of view (And that's
>not meant to imply that there's anything wrong with you having yours!)

My opinion is partly tongue-in-cheekiness from an anarchist worldview with
Marxist (Groucho)
leanings. But I do wish to emphasize the part about mass produced
interchangeable parts...
& the part about Global Pop Culture ... it's spreadin' the Lowest Common
Culture around the world like a bad flu virus & ANY and ALL opposition in ANY
form of protest AND "direct creative action" - i.e., mutatis mutandi,
creating/using non12TET- is necessary & needed. . . on many levels: personal
as well as socio-culturally.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/21/1999 1:10:08 AM

Personally I sorry I missed your quote the first time around. The whole fence
post method to musical tuning is kinda lacking in personal expression on this
level. The world of media in general is interested in suppressing any form of
individuality.

Zhang2323@aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 8/21/99 2:47:30 AM, stearns@capecod.net wrote:
>
> >I was reading your (Equal Tempered Scales are "unnatural" & smell of
> >Eurocentric mathematics & Capitalistic mass production/interchangeable
> >parts & "Globalist (Pop) Culture") post, and thought that I'd email
> >you off-list(thereby only boring you instead of everyone else who has
> >certainly had to endure me droning on in a similar fashion to many
> >times already), to perhaps offer a differing point of view (And that's
> >not meant to imply that there's anything wrong with you having yours!)
>
> My opinion is partly tongue-in-cheekiness from an anarchist worldview with
> Marxist (Groucho)
> leanings. But I do wish to emphasize the part about mass produced
> interchangeable parts...
> & the part about Global Pop Culture ... it's spreadin' the Lowest Common
> Culture around the world like a bad flu virus & ANY and ALL opposition in ANY
> form of protest AND "direct creative action" - i.e., mutatis mutandi,
> creating/using non12TET- is necessary & needed. . . on many levels: personal
> as well as socio-culturally.
>
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com

🔗D.Stearns <stearns@xxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/21/1999 1:57:48 PM

[Kraig Grady:]
>The world of media in general is interested in suppressing any form
of individuality.

I really don't see this Kraig... I think that any "world of media in
general" will 'run-out' whatever it can effectively 'run-out' (with
effective having a largely odious connotation here), quite regardless
of what its "individuality" (or lack thereof) is.

[Kraig Grady:]
>The whole fence post method to musical tuning is kinda lacking in
personal expression

No doubt. The problem (from a personal perspective anyway, or as it
effected me) is that it sets up such a monopoly on the possibilities -
or perhaps said a different way, an oppressive condition of
'nonexistent possibilities...' When I first started getting interested
in music I voraciously sought out 'the different,' and 'the
alternative,' yet I can probably count my exposure to the very idea
that a whole world of alternative tuning even existed on one
three-fingered-hand... Perhaps with the widespread advent of the
internet, others who are presently embarking on into 'the different,'
and 'the alternative,' will have a much better chance of at least
realizing that sprawling vistas of tuning related possibilities (i.e.
alternatives to the octave divided into twelve equal parts) actually
exist.

Dan

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/21/1999 1:04:01 PM

"D.Stearns" wrote:

> From: "D.Stearns" <stearns@capecod.net>
>
> [Kraig Grady:]
> >The world of media in general is interested in suppressing any form
> of individuality

>
>
> I really don't see this Kraig... I think that any "world of media in
> general" will 'run-out' whatever it can effectively 'run-out' (with
> effective having a largely odious connotation here), quite regardless
> of what its "individuality" (or lack thereof) is.

]I stand corrected. True any form of individuality that promotes
consumerism is welcome. I work in the belly of this whale. At one point I
worked somewhere where 7 Sit-coms were being done. We could not tell one
set from the others. I had to finally had to get rid of my T.V. because I
couldn't find any thing to watch. Even the News became nothing more than
the propaganda wing of the military. When CNN refuses to
report that only 13 tanks were found destroyed in Kosovo. 29 Billion in
bombs comes out to almost a half million per tank.

>
> [Kraig Grady:]
> >The whole fence post method to musical tuning is kinda lacking in
> personal expression
>
> No doubt. The problem (from a personal perspective anyway, or as it
> effected me) is that it sets up such a monopoly on the possibilities -
> or perhaps said a different way, an oppressive condition of
> 'nonexistent possibilities...' When I first started getting interested
> in music I voraciously sought out 'the different,' and 'the
> alternative,' yet I can probably count my exposure to the very idea
> that a whole world of alternative tuning even existed on one
> three-fingered-hand... Perhaps with the widespread advent of the
> internet, others who are presently embarking on into 'the different,'
> and 'the alternative,' will have a much better chance of at least
> realizing that sprawling vistas of tuning related possibilities (i.e.
> alternatives to the octave divided into twelve equal parts) actually
> exist.
>
> Dan

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
http://www.anaphoria.com