back to list

Re: [tuning] Re: Josquin example in adaptive-JI

🔗monz <monz@attglobal.net>

12/7/2002 8:33:51 PM

hi paul,

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:43 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Lasso example in adaptive-JI
>
>
> 2. would it be possible to do this for _Ave Maria_ by
> Josquin des Pres? this is the piece that jonathan walker
> focuses on in his _defense of just intonation_,
>
http://boethius.music.ucsb.edu/mto/issues/mto.96.2.6/mto.96.2.6.walker.html

> but the idea of *adaptive*, rather than strict,
> just intonation seems to have escaped walker's consideration.

here's my version of measures 44-53 of Josquin's _Ave Maria_,
in Vicentino's adaptive-JI tuning, using the _musica ficta_
accidentals as provided by Examples 2 and 3 in Jonathan Walker's article:

/tuning/files/monz/josquin-ave-maria.mid

if that link is broken, try this one (wait for it to work):

http://makeashorterlink.com/?U191462B2

-monz

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com> <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>

12/8/2002 12:17:52 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:

> here's my version of measures 44-53 of Josquin's _Ave
Maria_,
> in Vicentino's adaptive-JI tuning, using the _musica ficta_
> accidentals as provided by Examples 2 and 3 in Jonathan
Walker's article:
>
>
/tuning/files/monz/josquin-ave-ma
ria.mid

thanks -- this sounds lovely. there were a few "interesting"
moments, but it may have just been the vibrato . . . hopefully,
you'll eventually put up the score as you did for the lasso . . . i'll
reserve further comment 'till then . . .

🔗monz <monz@attglobal.net>

12/9/2002 12:17:19 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: [tuning] Re: Josquin example in adaptive-JI

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:
>
> > here's my version of measures 44-53 of Josquin's _Ave
> Maria_,
> > in Vicentino's adaptive-JI tuning, using the _musica ficta_
> > accidentals as provided by Examples 2 and 3 in Jonathan
> Walker's article:
> >
> >
> /tuning/files/monz/josquin-ave-ma
> ria.mid
>
> thanks -- this sounds lovely. there were a few "interesting"
> moments, but it may have just been the vibrato . . . hopefully,
> you'll eventually put up the score as you did for the lasso . . . i'll
> reserve further comment 'till then . . .

yes, i think i know what your talking about re: those "interesting"
moments, and i do think it's the slight vibrato in the General MIDI
trombone sound. but to me this sound gives a good representation
of the effect one would hear if it were done by a small choir of
voices (perhaps two on a part).

i'll get around to making the score when i have a chance ...
been very busy, dealing with the accident etc.

-monz