Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Re: Genesis of a Misquote

> [David Beardsley, TD 268.7]
>
> I'd also like to find the ref where Joe Mozo wrote off
> Genesis of a Music as beginners material - if I didn't
> dream it, I'd love to quote it.

? ? ! ! !

Sorry Dave, but you won't be able to quote me as ever having
said that.

I believe you're referring to my answer to your question
'what does Monzo's book have that those of Helmholtz, Partch,
and Doty don't?'. There, I had characterized Doty's book as
'beginners material', but not Partch's.

I did however state that my book assumes material from all three
as given, and expands from there. The full text of my response
to Dave is available on my website at:
http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/book/dotydont.htm

Joseph L. Monzo Philadelphia monz@juno.com
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🔗David Beardsley <xouoxno@xxxx.xxxx>

Joe Monzo wrote:

> From: Joe Monzo <monz@juno.com>
>
> > [David Beardsley, TD 268.7]
> >
> > I'd also like to find the ref where Joe Mozo wrote off
> > Genesis of a Music as beginners material - if I didn't
> > dream it, I'd love to quote it.
>
> ? ? ! ! !
>
> Sorry Dave, but you won't be able to quote me as ever having
> said that.

Ah - ok. I just felt that you kind of wrote those guys off,as if they were
unimportant.

As for Doty's book - it's fundamental.

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🔗Joe Monzo <monz@xxxx.xxxx>

[David Beardsley, TD 269.5]
>
>Joe Monzo wrote:
>
>> From: Joe Monzo <monz@juno.com>
>>
>> > [David Beardsley, TD 268.7]
>> >
>> > I'd also like to find the ref where Joe Mozo wrote off
>> > Genesis of a Music as beginners material - if I didn't
>> > dream it, I'd love to quote it.
>>
>> ? ? ! ! !
>>
>> Sorry Dave, but you won't be able to quote me as ever having
>> said that.
>
> Ah - ok. I just felt that you kind of wrote those guys off,
> as if they were unimportant.

Whew !!! Glad we cleared up that misunderstanding!!

I describe in detail in my autobiography (on my website)
how Partch's book was instrumental in arousing my interest
in just-intonation, and tuning in general, in the first place.

What's so interesting to me is that I had no real interest
in any of the subject matter of _Genesis_ when I bought it (1979,
during my freshman year of college at Manhattan School of Music),
yet for some unknown reason I purchased it anyway. I suppose
the color pictures of the cool-looking home-made instruements
had a lot to do with it, as I had tried my hand at making various
instruments when I was younger.

Perhaps my initial perplexion upon encountering the math, as I
browsed thru the book in the store, embedded itself in my mind
as a challenge for the future, which it certainly was for me
when I finally began to understand what Partch was saying (around
1982, a year after dropping out of music school).

And his numerous references to Helmholtz and, even more, to Ellis,
had me running out to get _On The Sensations Of Tone_, which
to this day I still haven't digested completely (that is, with
the kind of thoroughness with which I've internalized _Genesis_).

> As for Doty's book - it's fundamental.

I definitely agree to this. If my published ramblings make it
seem as tho I'm brushing off _The Just Intonation Primer_, it's
only because my first encounter with Doty's book was well after
I had completed several drafts of my own book, and it covers I lot
of the material I researched independently. All that means is
that Doty's book was not the wonderful revelation to me that
Partch's was, and that Doty's book was for many other people
(apparently including you).

But I certainly didn't mean to belittle its important place
in the microtonal literature - it's probably the most comprehensive
*basic* reference for JI beginners. It simply doesn't go into
the kind of detail my book does. I suppose mine would be
considered as being for a reader in the intermediate to advanced
level.

-monz