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Re: Test: hard returns, 79 characters (paraphrase of some Rothenberg)

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

8/2/1999 9:55:07 PM

Carl!
I appreciate you going through all this as I have never seen Rothenberg work. I
seem to be missing somerthing as I don't see where any thing like MOS is spelt out.
It seems to be barely implied. What are musical application of anything having to do
with equivalence classes or what is gain by the labeling scales proper and improper.
I really don't know what to do with

n!
Sigma(S_i) / n!
i=1

F(P) may be interpreted as the average number of elements in a non-
repeating sequence of n elements of P(x) required to determine the
key, x. Efficiency, E, is defined as F(P)/n and Redundancy, R, as 1 -
F(P)/n. Both numbers lie between 0 and 1.

Carl Lumma wrote:

> From: Carl Lumma <clumma@nni.com>
>
> Sorry for the bandwidth folks, but I'd like to perform a test. Along the
> way, anybody who cares should wind up with at least one copy of this
> Rothenberg stuff that he can read and print with a clear conscience....
>
> The model concerns a code that can be used to extract information from huge
> stimulus spaces despite the limitations of the human memory system...
>
> We have hypothesized that when a listener is presented with a series
> of unfamiliar tonal stimuli, he must mentally construct a reference
> frame, P, to which all such stimuli are referred. Many proper P may
> satisfy this requirement. If the stimuli are sufficiently unfamiliar
> (as when one listens to music of an alien culture) many repeated
> hearings may be necessary during which a listener replaces a familiar
> P with one more appropriate for classifying the stimuli heard. The
> cardinality of the constructed P will depend upon the numbers of
> distinctions required by the particular musical language or, if the
> stimuli are not musical, upon the fineness of discrimination required
> by the recognition task to be performed.
>
> Once an appropriate P has been found, the next step is to locate a stimulus
> within it...
>
> Given any "interval" (pair) in P, the listener is able to recognize
> the possible positions its elements might occupy in P. In effect,
> given any pair of elements he can mentally supply (interpolate) a
> possible set of remaining elements of P which satisfy the equivalence
> class and tuning he has learned. Such an interpolation becomes unique
> after a sufficient number of elements of P are heard. This is
> equivalent to the identification of x (key) in a give P(x).
>
> For example, the major triad [C E G] is not a sufficient subset of the
> C-major scale since there are two other major scales (namely G and F)
> in which it occurs. But C-major is the only major scale which
> contains the four notes [G B D F], so the "dominant seventh chord" is
> a sufficient subset of C-major. A minimal set is a sufficient set
> with no sufficient subsets. Thus, [G B D F] is not a minimal set, but
> [G B F] is, as there is no major scale except C which contains [G B
> F], while each of its proper subsets [G B] [G F] [B F] are included in
> some other major scale (G, F, and F# respectively).
>
> It is straightforward to verify that sufficient (and therefore
> minimal) sets are invariants of equivalence. They depend only on the
> equivalence class, not on the particular tuning.
>
> A measure is developed for this locating...
>
> Consider a language whose alphabet consists of n letters (or
> phonemes). How many distinct words can be formed using this
> alphabet? Certain restrictions may exist which can limit the
> sequences of letters that can occur. The more distinct words that can
> be formed whose length is less than or equal to some maximal value,
> the more efficient the alphabet is said to be.
>
> A similar situation applies when "words" are formed from sequences of
> intervals. Since interval sequences are formed from tone sequences,
> we consider sequences of the elements of some P. Also, since no new
> intervals are formed when an element is repeated, only non-repeating
> sequences will be considered. Since we are here concerned only with
> properties deriving from the structure of P, we will use the following
> criterion for the termination of a "word" (other criteria apply when
> "motifs" are considered): When all remaining elements of P are
> determined by a sequence of some of its elements, the addition of
> elements will impart no further information of this type, and the
> "word" will be considered terminated. That is, any sequence will be
> considered complete as soon as a sufficient set occurs in it.
>
> We now ask, given a particular equivalence class, how many distinct
> words can be formed using k elements where k varies from 1 to n.
> Consider all non-repeating sequences of n points (there are n! such
> sequences). Let S_i be the number of elements in each such sequence
> which must appear before a sufficient set is encountered. The F(P) is
> defined as the average,
>
> n!
> Sigma(S_i) / n!
> i=1
>
> F(P) may be interpreted as the average number of elements in a non-
> repeating sequence of n elements of P(x) required to determine the
> key, x. Efficiency, E, is defined as F(P)/n and Redundancy, R, as 1 -
> F(P)/n. Both numbers lie between 0 and 1.
>
> It should be noted that this kind of efficiency and redundancy differs
> from the meanings these terms assume in information theory. The
> distinction is important and applies to alphabets in spoken natural
> languages as well as to musical scales. The redundancy of information
> theory refers to a redundancy in the message, not in the code. In our
> discussion here, that property of the code which determines whether
> efficient messages _can_ be constructed (if such are desired) is
> considered. This property is inherent in the code itself, and does
> not apply to the message.
>
> Rothenberg outlines six scenarios...
>
> Scale type Stability Efficiency
> (a) proper high high
> (b) proper high low
> (c) proper low high
> (d) proper low low
> (e) improper ---- high
> (f) improper ---- low
>
> And discusses them...
>
> Notice that in Figure 1, all scales in 12tET with which we are most
> familiar (the major, minor, and Chinese pentatonic) conform to
> situation (a). In fact, the major scale (of which the "natural" minor
> is a mode) is far higher in both stability and efficiency than any
> other 7-tone scale. Next among 7-tone scales is the "melodic" minor
> (2,2,2,2,1,2,1). The Chinese pentatonic stands out among scales of 5
> and 6 tones.
>
> However, situation (b) applies to many scales with which we are
> familiar, such as the "whole-tone" and "12-tone" scales. Note that
> while these are strictly proper scales, from the hearing of a
> sufficient set (any element) alone, it is not possible to code the
> elements of P into scale degrees. That is, although PxP is coded by
> the proper mapping, there is no way to index elements of P except by
> arbitrary choice. __Thus, since in these cases intervals are coded
> but tones are not, composition with these scales must involve
> relations which make use of motivic similarities rather than relations
> between scale degrees.__ Hence the tone row basis of 12-tone music
> (which is essentially motivic in concept) is not surprising. An
> examination of Debussy's whole-tone piano prelude "Violes" show
> similar motivic dependency.
>
> Now consider improper scales. PxP is not coded except by the
> employment of proper subsets or a fixed tonic. __Hence information is
> primarily communicated by the scale degrees.__ Thus it is important
> that P be coded as quickly as possible, which is indicated by a high
> redundancy (low efficiency) as in case (f). It would be expected that
> scales characterized by case (e) would be extremely difficult to use,
> except when the tonic is fixed by a drone or similar device and, in
> fact, we have not discovered such scales in any musical culture
> examined thus far. In general, the use of motivic sequences on
> different scale degrees of improper scales would not be expected
> (except within proper subsets of such scales), and this is strongly
> supported by examination of Indian and other music using improper
> scales.
>
> We would also expect that proper scales characterized by low stability
> would tend to be used as improper scales, so that case (c) would
> resemble case (e), and (d) resemble (f), and similar remarks apply.
>
> Makes cross-cultural observations...
>
> In Java there exist two scale systems, "Slendro" and "Pelog", each
> containing a variety of scales. It has been observed that all scales
> in the "Slendro" class are strictly proper and that all in the "Pelog"
> class are improper. In a study conducted with the assistance of Mr.
> Surya Brata of the Ministry of Education and Culture, Jakarta, the
> uses of these scale systems were observed to be in accord with the
> predictions of this model.
>
> -C.
>
>

-- Kraig Grady
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