Fw: dimensions of sonance (was: Everyone Concerned)

Yahoo has been bouncing my posts back to me lately.
i'm trying this one again.

-monz

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From: "monz" <monz@attglobal.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:05 AM
Subject: dimensions of sonance (was: Everyone Concerned)

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> hi paul,
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> > From: "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>
> > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:05 PM
> > Subject: [tuning] Re: Everyone Concerned
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> > <big snip> ... my point, perhaps, was that
> > the fifth or the octave is going to sound more like a single note
> > than most other intervals, even if a pounded fifth or octave sounds
> > more like a pounded single note . . . this "singleness" is perhaps
> > one of the five, or perhaps an additional, dimension of
> > consonance/dissonance that david doty was talking about . . .
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> hmmm ... *please* give more info on what "david doty was talking about"!!!
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> i wrote, in:
> /tuning/files/dict/sonance.htm
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> >> Recent speculation among tuning theorists (mid-1999) has raised
> >> the idea that consonance and dissonance may actually be two
> >> separate and not mutually-exclusive dimensions of sonance.
> >> I have extrapolated this to the idea that each prime factor
> >> may in fact be responsible for a separate dimension of sonance
> >> that does not necessarily exclude any of the others.
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> > > Gann writes that a 680-cent fifth sounds "scary."
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> > if this is indeed an overarching assessment, made without context,
> > then this is certainly a piece of dogma i can't agree with. nor, i'm
> > sure, would many just intonation practitioners -- kraig grady in
> > particular loves to use this interval.
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> i got intrigued enough by this to do my own listening
> experiment. knowing that Kraig always works in JI,
> first i calculated that you were referring in his case
> to the 40:27 ratio. then i tuned up a nice long
> B:F# "perfect-5th" (a la La Monte Young's piece from
> 1960) with a General MIDI "reed organ" sound in Cakewalk,
> and gave it a good hearing. it doesn't sound especially
> "scary" to me. but i do think that 75:64 sounds "dark",
> for what that's worth, and that's an interval i really love.
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> -monz
> "all roads lead to n^0"
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