OM Just

We heard of wafso-justness, and I sometimes talk of effective justness,
but I can't seem to pin down the nature of OM justness--tuning which has
the mystical, healing OM quality. I'd really like to. I'm all in favor of
strict rational intonation as a theoretical construct, where it is very
useful, but as a tuning definition it is meaningless, and I'd like to
hear what people actually mean by this OM stuff.

In a message dated 6/19/02 6:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
genewardsmith@juno.com writes:

> We heard of wafso-justness, and I sometimes talk of effective justness,
> but I can't seem to pin down the nature of OM justness--tuning which has
> the mystical, healing OM quality. I'd really like to. I'm all in favor of
> strict rational intonation as a theoretical construct, where it is very
> useful, but as a tuning definition it is meaningless, and I'd like to
> hear what people actually mean by this OM stuff.
>
>

Gene, have you ever meditated to an OM? When chanting OM with lips closed,
an almost sine wave is created. Through slight changes of the aperture of
the lips and a changing of the vowel shape of the throat the harmonics of the
overtone series ring out. Start with MMM and lips closed. Then maybe 1
millimeter of parting of the lips. Then smile and go into Oh, then Ah, and
gradually to Ee with a little more widening of the mouth.

Until one hears--experiences--true just intonation, it will only be numbers.

best, Johnny Reinhard

p.s. Wafso?

Om is a mantra that is intended only for the recluse path to
enlightenment, meaning a celibate monk or nun who has withdrawn from
society. In a householder (everyone besides celibate monks/nuns in
reclusion, and who needs to be practical in living and working in the
everyday world), should avoid the use of Om and use a householder
mantra, since Om promotes a tendency to withdraw into a reclusive
lifestyle and interferes with motivation to involve oneself
productively in any other than the reclusive life.

By the way, there is nothing inferior about the householder path.
These paths are just two different roads to the same goal, but they
don't mix.

Namaste,

Bob

--- In tuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/19/02 6:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> genewardsmith@j... writes:
>
>
> > We heard of wafso-justness, and I sometimes talk of effective
justness,
> > but I can't seem to pin down the nature of OM justness--tuning
which has
> > the mystical, healing OM quality. I'd really like to. I'm all in
favor of
> > strict rational intonation as a theoretical construct, where it
is very
> > useful, but as a tuning definition it is meaningless, and I'd
like to
> > hear what people actually mean by this OM stuff.
> >
> >
>
> Gene, have you ever meditated to an OM? When chanting OM with lips
closed,
> an almost sine wave is created. Through slight changes of the
aperture of
> the lips and a changing of the vowel shape of the throat the
harmonics of the
> overtone series ring out. Start with MMM and lips closed. Then
maybe 1
> millimeter of parting of the lips. Then smile and go into Oh, then
Ah, and
> gradually to Ee with a little more widening of the mouth.
>
> Until one hears--experiences--true just intonation, it will only be
numbers.
>
> best, Johnny Reinhard
>
> p.s. Wafso?

instead of stating this ex cathedra, shouldn't you maybe preface it with
"according to such-and-such tradition...", or "I read somewhere that..."?
All Buddhist mantras start with "om" and many like "om mani padme hum" are
chanted by lay persons all the time.

Dante

> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert_wendell [mailto:rwendell@cangelic.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:17 AM
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tuning] Re: OM Just
>
>
> Om is a mantra that is intended only for the recluse path to
> enlightenment, meaning a celibate monk or nun who has withdrawn from
> society. In a householder (everyone besides celibate monks/nuns in
> reclusion, and who needs to be practical in living and working in the
> everyday world), should avoid the use of Om and use a householder
> mantra, since Om promotes a tendency to withdraw into a reclusive
> lifestyle and interferes with motivation to involve oneself
> productively in any other than the reclusive life.
>
> By the way, there is nothing inferior about the householder path.
> These paths are just two different roads to the same goal, but they
> don't mix.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Bob
>
>
> --- In tuning@y..., Afmmjr@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 6/19/02 6:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > genewardsmith@j... writes:
> >
> >
> > > We heard of wafso-justness, and I sometimes talk of effective
> justness,
> > > but I can't seem to pin down the nature of OM justness--tuning
> which has
> > > the mystical, healing OM quality. I'd really like to. I'm all in
> favor of
> > > strict rational intonation as a theoretical construct, where it
> is very
> > > useful, but as a tuning definition it is meaningless, and I'd
> like to
> > > hear what people actually mean by this OM stuff.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Gene, have you ever meditated to an OM? When chanting OM with lips
> closed,
> > an almost sine wave is created. Through slight changes of the
> aperture of
> > the lips and a changing of the vowel shape of the throat the
> harmonics of the
> > overtone series ring out. Start with MMM and lips closed. Then
> maybe 1
> > millimeter of parting of the lips. Then smile and go into Oh, then
> Ah, and
> > gradually to Ee with a little more widening of the mouth.
> >
> > Until one hears--experiences--true just intonation, it will only be
> numbers.
> >
> > best, Johnny Reinhard
> >
> > p.s. Wafso?
>
>
>
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