Sorta OT: Guitar Talk (was Re: [tuning] Re: a new technique)

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From: "emotionaljourney22" <paul@stretch-music.com>

> --- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "emotionaljourney22" <paul@s...>
> >
> > > > Any of this music on line?
> > >
> > > not yet -- but hugh mcgowan records me every week onto minidisc
> so if
> > > someone were to talk to him . . . i'll see if we can put something
> > > together . . .
> >
> > Cool. Would this new technique be playing real fast?
>
> not necessarily.

Is it bigger than a bread box? Smaller than a car?
Do you wear it? Can you eat it? Would you stuff it in a box or wear
it on your head?

> [from the ages of 15 (when i started guitar) to 21 i was particularly
> concerned with playing fast, and sat there practicing (a rather
> limited set of techniques) with a metronome until i could match steve
> vai (i even had the same model guitar, which as you know is now
> refretted for 22-equal). since then, i haven't been particularly
> concerned with playing fast,

Can you ripp around in 22tet? I still can't get around real quick
on the 63-tone JI guitar, but this was never my goal, I tend to be much
more flexable on the fretless. I can try out other tunings too. A big plus.

>though when i'm in a certain mood and
> nice and warmed up, that's often how i do play. if you want to hear
> some sickly fast guitar though, listen to buckethead!]

As a big Bill Laswell fan, I'm somewhat familiar with Buckethead.
As I recall, he's very linear.

I never really had speed. When I was 21 or 22 I had a cyst
removed from the top of my left hand and I've never been
the same. By 30-32, I was again having problems with the
same hand, so I had to stop for a few years. (Sorry to be a downer
folks, I'm leading up to a point) But that isn't the real reason I got
into minimalism. Even when I was learning Jazz and checking out
Post-Classical/Classical, I was still listening to all that classic Fripp,
Eno,
Budd, Hassell, Terry Riley and La Monte Young. At the time, I didn't
realise all this would be such a big influence.

> > I've been wowing 'em from coast to coast this Spring by playing
> >really slow.
>
> that's excellent, and leads me into something i was planning to ask
> julia, which was whether minimalism could be considered western
> music. instead, i'll wait until i read her pnm article . . .

I had a flip comment here, but it's such a good title I have to keep it to
myself.

* David Beardsley
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--- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:

> Is it bigger than a bread box? Smaller than a car?
> Do you wear it? Can you eat it? Would you stuff it in a box or wear
> it on your head?

sounds like phish lyrics, dave. but yes, yes, yes, no, yes, maybe.

> Can you ripp around in 22tet?

yeah, the only time i did that in public was at a mad duxx show at
the charles playhouse, on april fool's day, 1999. about an hour into
it, members of the audience tied up gabriel (on vox, sax, 12-tone
guitar) and covered him with dukk tape. i had a tape somewhere, but i
haven't seen it for at least a year. yeah, 22 works really well for
metal (you can add the 7th harmonic to power chords and it sounds
awesome without turning 'major'), but i've had no interest in metal
for at least 7 years . . .
unless you count king crimson's 1973-74 stuff.

> As a big Bill Laswell fan, I'm somewhat familiar with Buckethead.
> As I recall, he's very linear.

yup, sounds like a computer, not a man.

> I never really had speed. When I was 21 or 22 I had a cyst
> removed from the top of my left hand and I've never been
> the same. By 30-32, I was again having problems with the
> same hand, so I had to stop for a few years. (Sorry to be a downer
> folks, I'm leading up to a point)

that's okay, sharing is good (it should be). i'm very sorry for your
injuries. (i suspect that the more human stories we share, the better
the environment will get around here)

> But that isn't the real reason I got
> into minimalism. Even when I was learning Jazz and checking out
> Post-Classical/Classical, I was still listening to all that classic
Fripp,
> Eno,
> Budd, Hassell, Terry Riley and La Monte Young. At the time, I didn't
> realise all this would be such a big influence.

awesome. can you recommend any budd or hassell? i'm not familiar with
either.

Paul wrote:
>awesome. can you recommend any budd or hassell? i'm not familiar with
>either.

As another fan, let me jump in here. Both the records they made
with Eno are classics. Budd & Eno: Ambient 2 The Plateaux of Mirror,
Hassell & Eno: Possible Musics.
I like the earlier albums of Hassell. Also heard him live once a
long time ago. I can recommend Dream Theory in Malaya, Power Spot,
Aka Darbari Java, Vernal Equinox, The Surgeon of the Nightsky.
Harold Budd is very easy listening, without the negative connotation.
I find The White Arcades to be relaxing when playing it in the car.

Manuel

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From: <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>

> Paul wrote:
> >awesome. can you recommend any budd or hassell? i'm not familiar with
> >either.
>
> As another fan, let me jump in here. Both the records they made
> with Eno are classics. Budd & Eno: Ambient 2 The Plateaux of Mirror,

Also Budd & Eno: The Pearl.

> Hassell & Eno: Possible Musics.
> I like the earlier albums of Hassell. Also heard him live once a
> long time ago. I can recommend Dream Theory in Malaya, Power Spot,
> Aka Darbari Java, Vernal Equinox, The Surgeon of the Nightsky.
> Harold Budd is very easy listening, without the negative connotation.
> I find The White Arcades to be relaxing when playing it in the car.

Those are the choice picks.

* David Beardsley
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----- Original Message -----
From: "emotionaljourney22" <paul@stretch-music.com>

> --- In tuning@y..., David Beardsley <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
>
> > Is it bigger than a bread box? Smaller than a car?
> > Do you wear it? Can you eat it? Would you stuff it in a box or wear
> > it on your head?
>
> sounds like phish lyrics, dave. but yes, yes, yes, no, yes, maybe.

It's a style of questioning from the old TV show "What's My Line?"

* David Beardsley
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