Re: [tuning] Digest Number 2008

Hello Ertugrul!
It is my understanding that both the 17 and 24 systems are subsets of 53.
Of course it is also my understanding that regional fluctuations also have produced there own
variations. Often when listening to someone of the caliber of Kudsi Erguner, i notice "modulations"
or brief borrowings, or other scales temporarily to such a point i associate it with this music,
This also seems to complicate the reducing of the music to a single scale,

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> From: "ertugrulInanc" <ertugrulinanc@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: 7-limit � la Turk
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> Just for the record, there has never been a 53-equal Turkish
> temperment.
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> All of the above mentioned authors explain the tone system as a non-
> equal division of octave into 17 pitches (or pitch areas).
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> In the late XIX. and early XX. century, christian/arabic theorist
> Mikhail Meshaqa of Lebanon (which was a Turkish terrain) influenced
> the eastern music world with his 24-unequal division. His system is
> officially taught in Arabic countries and Iran today. Turkish
> musicologist Rauf Yekt� Bey also adopted his system with minor
> changes to make it fit the Turkish practice and declared his 24-
> unequal division. This sytem was modified by H.S. Arel and his
> companion Dr. S. Ezgi, gradually becoming the standard system in
> teaching.
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> ?efik G�rmeri�, pupil of Arel, started the "tradition" of explaining
> the system as a whole tone divided into 9 'commas', hence octave
> divided into 53 as a practical approach. Neither Yekt�, nor Arel-Ezgi
> ever stated a 53-equal system.
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> Aside from those, Ekrem Karadeniz, pupil of great composer
> Abdulkaadir T�re, formed his own 41-tone system identical to Partch's
> 43.
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> Again for the record, all of the above mentioned systems, except for
> the classical 17 division, have failed explaining the ongoing Turkish
> music practice. Especially the Arel-Ezgi system with its false
> intervals and scales have never accorded with the performance and
> tradition.
>
> Regards,
> Ertugrul

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