jerry's high third example

jerry --

last time you were here on this list, you provided us with an example
to listen to, in which a bunch of your students sang first a 2:5
dyad, then added the 3, while you periodically played the nearest
note to the 5 on a piano. the piano note sounded sharp (compared with
the nearest vocal note) at first, then as the 3 was added, the piano
note began to sound flatter and flatter, until it matched the vocal
note, and perhaps even sunk below it.

right now you seem to me to be making a whole lot of logical leaps
with your purported explanation of this phenomenon, nearly going so
far as to accuse some people of being disingenuous. we'll see where
the future discussions (which i hope will occur) on the jerry10
example will take us, but i fear that they (and any other 'jerries')
may fail to resolve these differences in our points of view (though i
certainly won't stop trying).

but the recording you provided us with, way back when, certainly
demonstrated the phenomenon that seems to have started you off on all
this. it would be great if you could resurrect that recording if at
all possible. it may help some people understand where you're coming
from, and perhaps francois or others could actually measure what's
going on in the example. perhaps it will suggest other ideas that may
help us get beyond our seeming differences in hearing/interpreting
the synthesized examples.

hoping for positive developments and mutual edification in all this,
paul