double-digit primes & 7-limit dominant 7ths

[David J. Finnamore, TD 212.1]
> I'm one of the _really_ crazy tuners who even likes
> double digit primes :-)

You mean like Partch with 11?

I think the _really_ crazy tuners like 3-digit primes. :) like me.
(and La Monte Young)

Does that make guys who mix primes and ETs psychotic?
(Dan Stearns, Johnny Reinhard...) :)

[John A. deLaubenfels, TD 213.3]
> I seem to stand alone in my assessment that 12:15:18:21 dom 7ths
> are not overly stable ("reduce the drama too much"). They ARE
> wonderfully tuned, with six lovely JI intervals, yet they are
> also SO plaintive, so begging for resolution, to my ear. I think
> Ray Tomes may be the only other list member who has agreed!

[Fred Reinagel, TD 213.6]
> I'll sign on as a 12:15:18:21 enthusiast. I love *good*
> barbership singing.

I too love good barbershop. Fred's analysis of the voice
leading, which I <snip>ped, is a good one.

I'm willing to grant the use of 12:15:18:21 'dominant 7th' in
classical or romantic music in certain contexts.

In fact, I'd be willing to use them in atonal or 12-tone music
in certain contexts, albeit probably sparingly.

Of course, we're talking here about our own interpretations
of someone else's work, in a retuning, like my Beethoven thing.
Or in our own work but emulating these stylistic cliches.

[deLaubenfels]
> Double-digit primes definitely have possibilities, I agree.
> I've played a bit with 11 and 13, which fill in all the integers
> of the higher octave (8 to 16). The chords are surprising (of
> course!) and rich. I haven't tried 17, which some advocate using
> (for a Neopolitan 2nd? I can't recall)

I found 43 to be an interesting chord-member in a tuning study I
wrote last year, called 'Alternative Rock Chord', available at:

http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/worklist/worklist.htm

And if you get a chance to be in New York, visit La Monte Young's
_Dreamhouse_ for an opportuninty to hear a chord sustained for 9
hours that has primes up to 283. That's an amazing experience.
See David Beardsley's _Juxtaposition_ website and Kyle Gann's
webpage articles for more info about it.

-monz
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Monz wrote:

> And if you get a chance to be in New York, visit La Monte Young's
> _Dreamhouse_ for an opportuninty to hear a chord sustained for 9
> hours that has primes up to 283. That's an amazing experience.
> See David Beardsley's _Juxtaposition_ website and Kyle Gann's
> webpage articles for more info about it.

Yes, I heartily second this - it is a wonderful and overwhelming experience!

monz@juno.com wrote:

> And if you get a chance to be in New York, visit La Monte Young's
> _Dreamhouse_ for an opportuninty to hear a chord sustained for 9
> hours that has primes up to 283. That's an amazing experience.
> See David Beardsley's _Juxtaposition_ website and Kyle Gann's
> webpage articles for more info about it.

Do it right - go right to the MELA Foundation site:

http://www.virtulink.com/mela/main.htm

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