Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Sorry that you failed to appreciate my analysis Paul.

Sorry to expose the "mystique" of the exotic Arab scale.
I believed in good faith that I was being helpful, by comparing it to a more familiar Western model.

paulerlich wrote:

>--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
>
>>--- In tuning@y..., "paulerlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
>>
>>>The Arabic Diatonic can be notated, for example, as
>>>
>>>Ab A# Cb Db Eb E# Gb (Ab)
>>>
>>>or
>>>
>>>A# Cb C# D# E# Gb G# (A#)
>>>
>>>
>>Transposed this gives
>>A Ax C D E Ex G >>
>>
>>(Let's analyse it in C)
>>
>>C Cx Eb F G Gx Bb
>>
>>on a spiral of fifths this gives
>>
>>Eb Bb F C G D A B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# Fx Cx Gx
>>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
>>y y y y y n n n n n n n n n n n y y
>>
>>So a chain of 17 steps - 6 thru 16 are missing - tonic is 4
>>
>>Therefore scalecoding is
>>17/678910111213141516/4
>> A span of 17 is fairly long for Western tunings, so I suggest that >>what has happened is the Cx has been substituted for the more usual >>Db and Gx for the usual Db.
>>
>
>"What has happened"? Where?
>
>>This would gives us.
>>
>>C Db Eb F G Ab Bb
>>
>
>Oh no! The "Arabicness" is totally lost! Why did you do that, >Charles? :)
>
>
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~====================================================~
Charles Lucy - lucy@harmonics.com (LucyScaleDevelopments)
------------ Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -------
for information on LucyTuning go to http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/
or Lucytuned Lullabies go to
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🔗paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
> Sorry to expose the "mystique" of the exotic Arab scale.
> I believed in good faith that I was being helpful, by comparing it
to a
> more familiar Western model.

What if you started with the other of the two notations I posted??

>
> paulerlich wrote:
>
> >--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
> >
> >>--- In tuning@y..., "paulerlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>The Arabic Diatonic can be notated, for example, as
> >>>
> >>>Ab A# Cb Db Eb E# Gb (Ab)
> >>>
> >>>or
> >>>
> >>>A# Cb C# D# E# Gb G# (A#)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Transposed this gives
> >>A Ax C D E Ex G
> >>
> >>
> >>(Let's analyse it in C)
> >>
> >>C Cx Eb F G Gx Bb
> >>
> >>on a spiral of fifths this gives
> >>
> >>Eb Bb F C G D A B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# Fx Cx Gx
> >>1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
> >>y y y y y n n n n n n n n n n n y y
> >>
> >>So a chain of 17 steps - 6 thru 16 are missing - tonic is 4
> >>
> >>Therefore scalecoding is
> >>17/678910111213141516/4
> >> A span of 17 is fairly long for Western tunings, so I suggest
that
> >>what has happened is the Cx has been substituted for the more
usual
> >>Db and Gx for the usual Db.
> >>
> >
> >"What has happened"? Where?
> >
> >>This would gives us.
> >>
> >>C Db Eb F G Ab Bb
> >>
> >
> >Oh no! The "Arabicness" is totally lost! Why did you do that,
> >Charles? :)
> >
> >
> >
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through
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> >
> >
>
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> ~====================================================~
> Charles Lucy - lucy@h... (LucyScaleDevelopments)
> ------------ Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -------
> for information on LucyTuning go to
> http://www.harmonics.com/lucy/
> or Lucytuned Lullabies go to
> http://www.lucytune.com or http://www.lucytune.co.uk or
http://www.lullabies.co.uk

🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@harmonics.com>

paulerlich wrote:

>--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
>
>>Sorry to expose the "mystique" of the exotic Arab scale.
>>I believed in good faith that I was being helpful, by comparing it >>
>to a >
>>more familiar Western model.
>>
>
>What if you started with the other of the two notations I posted??
>
>
>
What other of the two notations?
When I woke up this morning, I looked at my Mac, and saw your message, I thought;
"Ah ha! I think I know what that is.", and began to analyse it for my won curiosity.
I thought the result was interesting and maybe useful to someone else, so I posted it

I did warn you that I was still half asleep ;-).

🔗paulerlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
>
>
> paulerlich wrote:
>
> >--- In tuning@y..., Charles Lucy <lucy@h...> wrote:
> >
> >>Sorry to expose the "mystique" of the exotic Arab scale.
> >>I believed in good faith that I was being helpful, by comparing
it
> >>
> >to a
> >
> >>more familiar Western model.
> >>
> >
> >What if you started with the other of the two notations I posted??
> >
> >
> >
> What other of the two notations?

My original message began:

The Arabic Diatonic can be notated, for example, as

Ab A# Cb Db Eb E# Gb (Ab)
or
A# Cb C# D# E# Gb G# (A#)

> When I woke up this morning, I looked at my Mac, and saw your
message, I
> thought;
> "Ah ha! I think I know what that is.", and began to analyse it for
my
> won curiosity.
> I thought the result was interesting and maybe useful to someone
else,
> so I posted it
>
> I did warn you that I was still half asleep ;-).

I've been guilty of posting stuff while half asleep too -- no
problem, my friend!