Re: The Most Consonant Scale In The Universe

--- In tuning@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:
> Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
>
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1

Jacky: I'm going to "tune it up", *tonight"!!!
What (pray tell) sophisticated mathematics
did you use in order to derive this ...
"stroke of pure genius"???

And, ... what shall we name it?

Signed, Clueless in Seattle

----- Original Message -----
From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@yahoo.com>

> Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
>
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1

Not much of a scale, it's a drone.

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

--- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...>
>
>
> > Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
> >
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
>
> Not much of a scale, it's a drone.
>
> * David Beardsley
> * http://biink.com
> * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

Try listening to it long enough,
and you, too will begin to hear
what (only the golden-eared) can ....

JG

----- Original Message -----
From: "unidala" <JGill99@imajis.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: [tuning] Re: The Most Consonant Scale In The Universe

> --- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...>
> >
> >
> > > Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
> > >
> > > 1/1
> > > 1/1
> > > 1/1
> > > 1/1
> > > 1/1
> > > 1/1
> >
> > Not much of a scale, it's a drone.
> Try listening to it long enough,
> and you, too will begin to hear
> what (only the golden-eared) can ....

Look at my web page. I think I know how to listen to
a drone.

http://biink.com

And I don't need golden ears.

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

--- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "unidala" <JGill99@i...>
> To: <tuning@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:53 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: The Most Consonant Scale In The Universe
>
>
> > --- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
> > > >
> > > > 1/1
> > > > 1/1
> > > > 1/1
> > > > 1/1
> > > > 1/1
> > > > 1/1
> > >
> > > Not much of a scale, it's a drone.
> > Try listening to it long enough,
> > and you, too will begin to hear
> > what (only the golden-eared) can ....
>
>
> Look at my web page. I think I know how to listen to
> a drone.
>
> http://biink.com
>
> And I don't need golden ears.
>
> * David Beardsley
> * http://biink.com
> * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

Well, excuuuuuse me, your eminence...
In the future, I will try to comport
with your *refined* sense of humor!

JG :)

Jacky,

--- In tuning@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:
> Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
>
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1
> 1/1

What a cheater you are! That's just the middle row of the Diamond
Marimba, standing on it's head - no fair, no fair!!

:)

Cheers,
Jon

--- In tuning@y..., "jonszanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Jacky,
>
> --- In tuning@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:
> > Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
> >
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
> > 1/1
>
> What a cheater you are! That's just the middle row of the Diamond
> Marimba, standing on it's head - no fair, no fair!!
>
> :)
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

Actually, Jacky you are *not* the first
to "discover" this scale... tsk ... tsk

Ever heard of the "Lambdumma"?

JG :)

--- In tuning@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:

Prove or disprove:

(1) Any maximally consonant scale is a chord

(2) Any maximally consonant RI scale is an otonal or utonal chord

--- In tuning@y..., "genewardsmith" <genewardsmith@j...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...> wrote:
>
> Prove or disprove:
>
> (1) Any maximally consonant scale is a chord
>
> (2) Any maximally consonant RI scale is an otonal or utonal chord

[1] Every cry is a song

[2] Every song is a prayer

J Gill

> Prove or disprove:
>
> (1) Any maximally consonant scale is a chord

By definition, I'd say.

> (2) Any maximally consonant RI scale is an otonal or utonal chord

Depending on how you define maximally consonant, the ASSs may
violate this. See:

http://x31eq.com/ass.htm

-Carl

----- Original Message -----
From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:59 PM
Subject: [tuning] Re: The Most Consonant Scale In The Universe

> --- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> > Not much of a scale, it's a drone.
>
>
>
> "Repetition is a Form of Change" - Brian Eno

:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

* David Beardsley
* http://biink.com
* http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley

--- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...>
> To: <tuning@y...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:59 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: The Most Consonant Scale In The Universe
>
> > --- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
> > > Not much of a scale, it's a drone. >>>>

Hello Jacky, Unidala, David, Jon, genewardsmith , Clumma, and all who
have contributed to make this topic from becoming monotonous,

On a little more serious note, development of Indian music started
with the monotone. In very early stages, Vedic chanting was
monotonic, called the "archika" singing.

Even today, working on our voice to make it steady, strong, and
sweet, we find ourselves singing only Sa, for more than an hour. In
fact, we enjoy getting comprehensively lost in the Sa, and, at the
end, rediscover ourselves.

A rich monotone has several 'self-generated' notes -- the partials.
Consonance, the property of sounding in harmony, requires
simultaneous sounding of more than one note. In a monotone, we sound
just one note, and other notes follow. [I do not know if this can be
called 'harmony'].

A monotone has an aesthetic aspect also. It is musical without
having too much musicality. You can concentrate on the words and
contemplate on their deeper meaning, while making it musical, without
the music diverting your attention. It is the exact opposite of a
raga improvisation, where music dominates, the words of the
composition in that raga becoming subservient sometimes.

Regards,
Haresh.

Dear Haresh,

Thank you very much for the wonderful post, exploring the depths of
your monotone experience. What a rich and true field we could all
play in, if we only realized the universe that was in each and every
*single* note we produce.

Cheers,
Jon

In a message dated 1/10/02 11:21:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
JSZANTO@ADNC.COM writes:

> What a rich and true field we could all
> play in, if we only realized the universe that was in each and every
> *single* note we produce.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
>
>

Hmmn, it strikes to me that the generation of extra- notes while vocalizing
Sa can be carried further in the imagination than in the perceptively audible
pitches. And that this is the "monophony" of Partch.

Johnny Reinhard

Very good. Kinda reminds me of the mid-'50's absurdist riddle: What's the
difference between a telephone pole?
Jay

At 11:53 PM 1/9/02 -0000, you wrote:
>--- In tuning@y..., "David Beardsley" <davidbeardsley@b...> wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jacky_ligon" <jacky_ligon@y...>
>>
>>
>> > Introducing the Unitonic Chant Tuning:
>> >
>> > 1/1
>> > 1/1
>> > 1/1
>> > 1/1
>> > 1/1
>> > 1/1
>>
>> Not much of a scale, it's a drone.
>>
>> * David Beardsley
>> * http://biink.com
>> * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley
>
>Try listening to it long enough,
>and you, too will begin to hear
>what (only the golden-eared) can ....
>
>
>JG
>
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--- In tuning@y..., "jonszanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> Dear Haresh,
>
> Thank you very much for the wonderful post, exploring the depths of
> your monotone experience. What a rich and true field we could all
> play in, if we only realized the universe that was in each and
every
> *single* note we produce.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon

As a contrasting view, I'd like to offer that one of the most
powerful evocations of "the universe" for me was in the long, slow
glissandi featured on Fripp and Eno's album _No Pussyfooting_ (part
of my bizarrely inflated collection of albums from the year 1973).

--- In tuning@y..., "paulerlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "jonszanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
> > Dear Haresh,
> >
> > Thank you very much for the wonderful post, exploring the depths of
> > your monotone experience. What a rich and true field we could all
> > play in, if we only realized the universe that was in each and
> every
> > *single* note we produce.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
>
> As a contrasting view, I'd like to offer that one of the most
> powerful evocations of "the universe" for me was in the long, slow
> glissandi featured on Fripp and Eno's album _No Pussyfooting_ (part
> of my bizarrely inflated collection of albums from the year 1973).

Paul,

I was lucky enough to see Fripp perform in 1972 at the
Rainbow Theatre in London. Another "maestro of the glissando"
might be Frank Zappa, whose rapid precision was staggering
(though less drawn out into "textural" repetitions) ...

It's interesting that you find the music from (apparantly)
the year of your birth so inspiring! '73 was a good year,
indeed ...

Regards, J Gill

--- In tuning@y..., "unidala" <JGill99@i...> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I was lucky enough to see Fripp perform in 1972 at the
> Rainbow Theatre in London. Another "maestro of the glissando"
> might be Frank Zappa, whose rapid precision was staggering
> (though less drawn out into "textural" repetitions) ...

Can you give me examples of glissandi in Zappa's music? I own quite a
few of his recordings (though certainly not the majority), and
nothing comes to mind at the moment . . .

> It's interesting that you find the music from (apparantly)
> the year of your birth so inspiring! '73 was a good year,
> indeed ...

Strangely, I was born in 1972 . . . I seem to find that beginning in
1975, the creative spirit in music, at least that by well-known
artists, is largely overcome by the more powerful commercial evil
spirit of record-company greed . . .

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