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Makoyan's optimum temperament

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

11/20/2001 2:06:25 AM

Take a look at this one:

"An Attempt to the Optimum Temperament" by Makoyan
http://www.na.rim.or.jp/~makoyan/e_optimum.htm

I bet Paul has some interesting things to say.

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🔗genewardsmith@juno.com

11/20/2001 2:28:48 AM

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> Take a look at this one:
>
> "An Attempt to the Optimum Temperament" by Makoyan
> http://www.na.rim.or.jp/~makoyan/e_optimum.htm

Interesting--it's not an approach I've seen before. Is anyone
familiar with this idea?

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

11/20/2001 1:32:55 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> Take a look at this one:
>
> "An Attempt to the Optimum Temperament" by Makoyan
> http://www.na.rim.or.jp/~makoyan/e_optimum.htm
>
>
> I bet Paul has some interesting things to say.

I saw this recently; it's a well temperament, and has lots and lots
of specific criteria. Maybe optimal for Makoyan, but not likely for
anyone else -- it's not at all elegant.

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

11/20/2001 1:34:15 PM

--- In tuning@y..., genewardsmith@j... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "monz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
> > Take a look at this one:
> >
> > "An Attempt to the Optimum Temperament" by Makoyan
> > http://www.na.rim.or.jp/~makoyan/e_optimum.htm
>
> Interesting--it's not an approach I've seen before. Is anyone
> familiar with this idea?

In the words of Dr. Evil, "pretty standard, really". A lot of
arbitrariness here, you must admit.

🔗genewardsmith@juno.com

11/20/2001 4:44:06 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

> In the words of Dr. Evil, "pretty standard, really". A lot of
> arbitrariness here, you must admit.

He pretty much pulled his personal best conditions out of the air,
but the method doesn't depend on his choices of how to impliment it.
I found it interesting because it gives a theoretical basis to a well-
tempering.

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

11/20/2001 5:19:00 PM

--- In tuning@y..., genewardsmith@j... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
>
> > In the words of Dr. Evil, "pretty standard, really". A lot of
> > arbitrariness here, you must admit.
>
> He pretty much pulled his personal best conditions out of the air,
> but the method doesn't depend on his choices of how to impliment
it.
> I found it interesting because it gives a theoretical basis to a
well-
> tempering.

I don't see this as any different from the theoretical basis for well-
tempering that's been there all along -- assume a 12-tone closed
system, and give more importance to the consonant intervals in the
most common keys. Am I missing something?

🔗genewardsmith@juno.com

11/20/2001 7:51:02 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:

> I don't see this as any different from the theoretical basis for
well-
> tempering that's been there all along -- assume a 12-tone closed
> system, and give more importance to the consonant intervals in the
> most common keys. Am I missing something?

His approach was _ad hoc_, but a little less _ad hoc_. It seems to me
that is progress, and suggests a way to go to try to rationalize this
business.

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

11/21/2001 11:50:03 AM

--- In tuning@y..., genewardsmith@j... wrote:
> --- In tuning@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
>
> > I don't see this as any different from the theoretical basis for
> well-
> > tempering that's been there all along -- assume a 12-tone closed
> > system, and give more importance to the consonant intervals in
the
> > most common keys. Am I missing something?
>
> His approach was _ad hoc_, but a little less _ad hoc_. It seems to
me
> that is progress, and suggests a way to go to try to rationalize
this
> business.

I'm just saying I've seen this sort of thing before. It's nothing new.