Re: for god sakes

[Kraig Grady:]
>In other words don't ask questions. Don't Make observations and for god sakes don't observe anything!

Ah... no! Just don't assume your "questions," "observations," and conclusions are mine.

>Do we need to! I have now reason to accept only one type of hearing

What reason? What type?

Dan

"D. Stearns" wrote:

> From: "D. Stearns" <stearns@capecod.net>
>
> [Kraig Grady:]
> >In other words don't ask questions. Don't Make observations and for god sakes don't observe anything!
>
> Ah... no! Just don't assume your "questions," "observations," and conclusions are mine.

First of all If I assume that your observations were mine, there would be no reason to state them. I state
my views as a compensation to assumptions I see being made. Hear on this list I am aware that I arrived
from a completely different direction that most. Being the case it could quite possibly be the wrong forum
for my ideas, especially if the environment is such that despite its pretext is predominantly focused on
ETs, non acoustic music derived predominantly for western musical assumptions (with a few exceptions).
Just as those who participate in the above worthwhile practices have their philosophical background on
which a host of others idea gravitate, it would seem logical that an opposite musical practice would be a
gravity to other ways of seeing. Frankly a while back I listed Why I preferred JI over ET. I expected to
get a list back. ( i had even thought of a few myself) My observations were not a conclusions that they
were universal!
BTW I heard and maybe this needs to be corrected that Ravi Shankar was turned down for teaching job at
UCSD because they said they considered him an "untrained" musician. How else could they compete!

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
www.anaphoria.com

> BTW I heard and maybe this needs to be corrected that Ravi Shankar was
turned down for teaching job at
>UCSD because they said they considered him an "untrained" musician. How
else could they compete!

(if this is even true) I'm sure his worldwide fame from playing to overflow
crowds of adoring and appreciative fans somewhat lessoned the blow of
rejection. :-) Meanwhile those who rejected him sit in their offices
pushing paper and sucking up to rich old ladies to try and raise money.

dante

Rosati wrote:

> From: "Rosati" <dante@pop.interport.net>
>
> > BTW I heard and maybe this needs to be corrected that Ravi Shankar was
> turned down for teaching job at
> >UCSD because they said they considered him an "untrained" musician. How
> else could they compete!
>
> (if this is even true) I'm sure his worldwide fame from playing to overflow
> crowds of adoring and appreciative fans somewhat lessoned the blow of
> rejection. :-) Meanwhile those who rejected him sit in their offices
> pushing paper and sucking up to rich old ladies to try and raise money.
>
> dante

This is what is funny about the whole thing! what better way to raise money
and attach students. I was hoping someone on the list knew more!
-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
www.anaphoria.com

[Kraig Grady:]
>I state my views as a compensation to assumptions I see being made.

I'm curious as to what these "assumptions" (specifically referencing "serialism," "number games," and "ET") are?

>a while back I listed Why I preferred JI over ET. I expected to get a list back.

Well if you expected a list of why I prefer ET over JI... I wouldn't have one to give back;-- as I don't.

Dan

Message text written by Kraig Grady:

> BTW I heard and maybe this needs to be corrected that Ravi Shankar was
turned down for teaching job at
UCSD because they said they considered him an "untrained" musician. How
else could they compete!
<

The last time I saw the UCSD catalog, RS was listed as a university
professor, which is the highest honor that UC can bestow, with privileges
like not having to teach formally or do administrative tasks. UCSD has a
long history of hiring musician in the past without standard academic
credential (Partch, Romero, Cheatham, Oliveros). The surprising thing about
Shankar is that at his age (he hasn't bother to play well in many years)
and with his commercial success, he even accepted the post.

Jonathan Szanto wrote:

<[for those some of you who spent time at UCSD in your 'formative' years
(you know who you are), the dept. is in quite a bit of chaos these days,
torn between different factions, generational tides, and disciplines
(mostly comp. vs. performing) -- the road will be bumpy for a while before
it can get back to being one of the bright spots...]

Was there ever a time when that department was not chaotic?

>
> Well if you expected a list of why I prefer ET over JI... I wouldn't have one to give back;--
> as I don't.
>
This is what Ace Ventura was talking about in When Nature Calls,
an otherwise pretty lame movie :
Chopper pilot says," If I were you I wouldn't do that"
(or something to that effect)
Ace says, " If I were you, I'd use your body to do it.
See, you can't stop me no matter who you are."

- Drew