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Re: Equiton(e)

🔗John Chalmers <JHCHALMERS@UCSD.EDU>

6/28/2001 8:22:39 AM

I think the term "Equiton" or "Equitone" has been used by the inventor
of a new 12-tet notation. I'll try to find the reference among my New
Music Notation Association files.

--John

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

6/28/2001 9:04:30 AM

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Chalmers <JHCHALMERS@UCSD.EDU>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:22 AM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)
>
>
> I think the term "Equiton" or "Equitone" has been used by the inventor
> of a new 12-tet notation. I'll try to find the reference among my New
> Music Notation Association files.

Yes, John, you're absolutely correct. I don't have the reference
handy, but I remember reading about this and I do have the article
somewhere.

-monz
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🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

6/28/2001 9:12:06 AM

> From: John Chalmers <JHCHALMERS@UCSD.EDU>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:22 AM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)
>

> I think the term "Equiton" or "Equitone" has been used by the inventor
> of a new 12-tet notation. I'll try to find the reference among my New
> Music Notation Association files.

Here's a page that has the text in Japanese and gives
examples of Equitone notation.

http://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score/equiton/equiton.htm

-monz
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🔗manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com

6/28/2001 9:22:18 AM

> http://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score/equiton/equiton.htm

Schönberg also invented a notation like that, bringing the
number of staff lines down to 3, if I recall correctly.

Manuel

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

6/28/2001 12:28:49 PM

> From: <manuel.op.de.coul@eon-benelux.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)
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> > http://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score/equiton/equiton.htm
>
> Sch�nberg also invented a notation like that, bringing the
> number of staff lines down to 3, if I recall correctly.

Yes, he did. It's published in _Style and Idea_.

He uses diagonal lines as "accidentals" with notes requiring
them, along with the regular 3-line-2-space staff, to
make a compact notation for 12-EDO.

I'll scan it in and submit a post about it when I have time tonight.

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🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

7/1/2001 6:29:16 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)

> Here's a page that has the text in Japanese and gives
> examples of Equitone notation.
>
> http://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score/equiton/equiton.htm

I've made an English version of this page, and put it at:

/tuning/files/monz/Equiton/equiton.htm

The translation was done via Babelfish, and could be very much
improved. Any Japanese-English-fluent people out there are
welcome to do so. (BUYO-BUYO-IGOR / muchos pantaloons?)

-monz
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🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

7/1/2001 8:15:53 PM

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)
>

>
> > Here's a page that has the text in Japanese and gives
> > examples of Equitone notation.
> >
> > http://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score/equiton/equiton.htm
>
>
> I've made an English version of this page, and put it at:
>
> /tuning/files/monz/Equiton/equiton.htm
>
>
> The translation was done via Babelfish, and could be very much
> improved. Any Japanese-English-fluent people out there are
> welcome to do so. (BUYO-BUYO-IGOR / muchos pantaloons?)

Just thought I should clarify a few things for those who are
struggling to understand this terrible English translation.

The question-marks represent Japanese words and characters
that Babelfish didn't understand... and I have no idea at
all what they are. Someone please help with this.

I would say that "sound high" in this translation refers to
pitch-height and "sound value" refers to duration. I'll probably
replace those terms soon.

About 3/4 of the way down the page, under "Revolutionary
reformation of sound value indication" (what a great translation:
a Revolution *and* a Reformation in one line!), the author
Tomoshiba Fuwa describes "Klavarscribo", a different invented
notation which he feels is inferior to Equiton.

Hmmm... guess I need to do a search on "Klavarscribo" now,
and explain what *that* is...

(And I still plan to make a webpage about Schoenberg's notation
invention.)

-monz
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🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

7/2/2001 5:55:29 PM

On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 20:15:53 -0700, "monz" <joemonz@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hmmm... guess I need to do a search on "Klavarscribo" now,
>and explain what *that* is...

Hmm, that looks like Esperanto, although it should be "Klavarskribo" with a
"k"...

Ah. http://www.klavarskribo.nl/english/

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

7/2/2001 9:27:05 PM

> From: Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Equiton(e)
>
>
> Hmm, that looks like Esperanto, although it should be
> "Klavarskribo" with a "k"...
>
> Ah. http://www.klavarskribo.nl/english/

Good catch, Herman! From the webpage:

> Klavarskribo means "keyboard notation" in Esperanto.

-monz
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