Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Re: Google Search of ixpres.com (was Comma pump)

Hi Monz,

Joseph wrote:

>May I gently suggest that you have a BIG INDEX of EVERY Monz page
>someplace ON ONE PAGE, and add to the index... If you could group
>them by general category that would be best.

Here's something may help (recent discovery).

You can search Monz's site in Google by adding site:ixpres.com at the end.
E.g.
"comma iv site:ixpres.com"
which turns the page up as first entry.

http://www.ixpres.com/interval/td/monzo/i-iv-v7-i/i-iv-v-i.htm

while "comma iv" doesn't even have it on the first page. I suppose
there are lots of meanings of the word "comma"!

There are other web pages on ixpress.com, which sometimes turn up in the
results, but usually most of the pages are from your site!
At least, if the search phrase contains any terms in use for microtonal
music.

You can also make a google search page which does this automatically.

I remember you asked about it before - just found out that google has one,
and ot is easy to do.

http://www.google.com/services/free.html

Only lets one refine the search to the domain, not a directory in the
domain - version for my own site searches the whole of nbci, but
is also useful if one wants to do that.
http://members.nbci.com/tune_smithy/searches/google_search.htm

I also did one to search your site:
http://members.nbci.com/tune_smithy/searches/monz_google_search.htm

However, it is also easy to add site:ixpress.com to the search field
as well, once one knows to do that, so I don't expect to use it
much.

Interesting page of tunings of the progression. Maybe I wasn't
on the list at the time as I'm sure I'd have remembered it.

I find the 8/9 j.i. 7th gives a far more decisive resolution
while the 9/10 one gives a more harmonious chord
which one notices especially in longer passages as in
the C.P.E. Bach that John deLaubenfels has adaptively tuned for me.

This clip shows that well, and one can see why it is,
because of the 4/3 to the 1/1.

If the dominant seventh has no fifth in it (in the C.P.E. Bach) then
the 8/9 is about as harmonious as the 9/10 and one gets
the best of both worlds if enough of those types of dom7ths are used.

John has posted about his new method for adaptively tuning
dom7th so that if it has a fifth it is 9/10, and if no fifth, 8/9,
on the math-tuning list
/tuning-math/message/128

The 7 limit one is also harmonious but not
so decisive.

The quarter comma meantone one is rather interesting. Seems to
have less of a sense of return to it, almost like
one has moved somewhere else as a result of the
progression, especially when one hears it in
comparison with the others with a strong sense of return.

Robert

🔗Jon Szanto <JSZANTO@ADNC.COM>

Robert,

--- In tuning@y..., "Robert Walker" <robertwalker@n...> wrote:
> Here's something may help (recent discovery).
>
> You can search Monz's site in Google by adding site:ixpres.com at
the end.

Something I've found infinitely useable, available on the Google
site, is their Google Toolbar. It installs on your browser (I happen
to be using IE on the PC, don't know how many browsers/platforms it
supports), but if you go to a site, say the main page on Joe's site,
it gives you a choice of searching the net or searching from the page
you are sitting on. In effect, it makes every site on the net
searchable for text!

Heck, I use it sometimes when I want to quickly find something on one
of the sites *I've* designed.

Minimally invasive, as far as privacy goes (and as far as I remember)
and has saved me a ton of time in the last few months...

Cheers,
Jon

🔗monz <joemonz@yahoo.com>

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Walker <robertwalker@ntlworld.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:09 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Google Search of ixpres.com (was Comma pump)
>
>
> You can search Monz's site in Google by adding site:ixpres.com at the end.
> E.g.
> "comma iv site:ixpres.com"
> which turns the page up as first entry.
>
> http://www.ixpres.com/interval/td/monzo/i-iv-v7-i/i-iv-v-i.htm
>
> while "comma iv" doesn't even have it on the first page. I suppose
> there are lots of meanings of the word "comma"!

Hi Robert,

Thanks for this!!!!! This is terrific!

Please note: our (Sonic Arts) server is ixpres.com, NOT ixpress.com.
That extra "s" has caused many problems, and while you wrote it correctly
here, you wrote it incorrectly everywhere else in your post.
It's a very common mistake.

Yes, this page was done before you joined the list. At the time,
we were debating the relevance of the 4:5:6:7 version of the
"dominant 7th" chord to Euro "common-practice" harmony. I decided
the best "map" to the debate would be an audible presentation of
several possible different tunings of it, in a cadential context.

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

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🔗Robert Walker <robertwalker@ntlworld.com>

Hi Monz,

> Please note: our (Sonic Arts) server is ixpres.com, NOT ixpress.com.
> That extra "s" has caused many problems, and while you wrote it correctly
> here, you wrote it incorrectly everywhere else in your post.
> It's a very common mistake.

Sorry about that. Yes, I made it quite a few times while searching,
until I figured it out.

As you see, was careful about it for the search text but didn't
notice it in the rest of the post.

> Yes, this page was done before you joined the list. At the time,
> we were debating the relevance of the 4:5:6:7 version of the
> "dominant 7th" chord to Euro "common-practice" harmony. I decided
> the best "map" to the debate would be an audible presentation of
> several possible different tunings of it, in a cadential context.

Thanks, enjoyed listening to them!

Robert