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Re: [tuning] Re: Thai "7-equal" tuning (was Re: Brian McLaren's "Introduction to Microtonality" take aways...)

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

6/12/2001 6:12:19 PM

Robert!
I don't have any but would like to put some up. BTW you find the same type of Near 7-ET among
the Chopi tribe of Mozambique. This I have one sample of as being the most accurate at
http://www.anaphoria.com/chopi.PDF
which i got from Andrew tracy who father collected quite a few measurements in the mid forties but
only had a set of tunings forks tuned 4 vibration apart. There has been much speculation about a
cross communications via among other things the Chinese colonizing Madagascar from 100-700 AD.

Robert Walker wrote:

> Do you have measurements for the Thai "7-equal" scale to hand?

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@anaphoria.com>

6/13/2001 3:24:58 PM

Paul!
Just like the chopi who think of their scale as equal, we have to remember that what equal
means to us and what equal means to them might be quite different.

Paul Erlich wrote:

> The Thai scale is _conceptually_ equal. Thai musicians accept do
> accept 7-tET, but they also accept modest deviations from it, which
> usually come up in practice since ETs are very hard to tune by ear,
> especially on instruments such as the Thai xylophones, etc.
>
> By contrast, a study of Central African musicians employing 5-tone
> scales showed that, while they felt 5-tET was OK, they preferred
> somewhat unequal tunings.

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@stretch-music.com>

6/13/2001 6:09:03 PM

--- In tuning@y..., Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> wrote:
> Paul!
> Just like the chopi who think of their scale as equal, we have
to remember that what equal
> means to us and what equal means to them might be quite different.

True, but unlike the Chopi music (as far as I know), Thai music uses
modulating pentatonic melodies. If one of the seven pentatonic "key
signatures" sounds different than the others, that is a sign of
inequality very similar to the standards for tuning 12-equal in the
West.