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im doing a dissertation at the moment\

my wey question is: What constraints on the modern dance music producer are
there to conform to tone/semi tone away from microtone?

if any one could lend me a hand i would be most grateful

thank you

Rob

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🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

Hi Rob,

None. There are no constraints from the dance perspective since all
choreography is based on time and rhythm. I'm responding from the gut,
having not really though much about it until you raised the question. Have
you heard of difficulties with a "microtonal" score? Microtones have always
helped the production in the ones I've experienced.

Good luck on your dissertation.

Johnny Reinhard

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

Well
i would look at Merce's work right off the bat
then if you would like a more 'recent' vibe
the SEJIS did the music for a piece called Summer Rain by a former UF dance instructor
It is definitely microtonal and was constructed to and from modern dance movements

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Greco
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: [tuning] microtones

im doing a dissertation at the moment\

my wey question is: What constraints on the modern dance music producer are there to conform to tone/semi tone away from microtone?

if any one could lend me a hand i would be most grateful

thank you

Rob

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🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

How are we defining constraints Johnny?

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/
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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [tuning] microtones

Hi Rob,

Good luck on your dissertation.

Johnny Reinhard

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🔗Robert Greco <robgreco@hotmail.com>

thanks for your responce

im not quite sure what you mean by the micro tonal score.

however i produce micro tonal dance music

i use cello sounds and it has a great effect if one is played a quater tone out
of the other

it has an almost 'unsettled' feel i find>

> please respond with your views

thank you

rob

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🔗Robert Greco <robgreco@hotmail.com>

> thank you for your help

would it be ok if i sent you a short questionaire related to my research on
micro tones?

rob

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🔗Robert Greco <robgreco@hotmail.com>

im looking to see if music producers use micro tones in their compositions of
dance music

then if not/why not?

if our ears have in a sense been tamed to not reconise any other tonal ststem
but the tempered scale.

or if producers simply dont know of micro tone >or how to create one

thank you

rob greco

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🔗Rick McGowan <rick@unicode.org>

Robert Greco wrote...

> What constraints on the modern dance music producer
> are there to conform to tone/semi tone away from microtone?

I can't answer that directly, but here's my experience with dancers. I
assume you're talking about modern dance. If you're talking about Rock DJ
music or something, I guess you can delete this posting...

I have written quite a bit of microtonal "ballet" music. I've mailed to
several dance organizations, etc, online several times, and even had
announcements sent out through them, looking for choreographers interested
in collaboration. (And let me tell you, the Bay Area here is _crawling_
with dance companies.) I've offered to actually PAY for venues to put on
shows! I got a few nibbles, but they all came back negatively within a few
days. One lady, who is a choreographer with her own small company around
here (San Jose) was candid enough to tell me that she has enough trouble
getting _any_ audience for modern dance already, so she'll stick to
"normal" music, and not go out on a limb. (She did take the time to listen
to a bunch of stuff out at the Tuning List web site at Yahoogroups, by the
way, so people here got a little air-time out of that... ;-))

Over a period of several months I found one choreographer who's interested
in collaboration, but is going off to grad school elsewhere come autumn.

My conclusion over months of actively trying to get a production together
is that on the whole, dancers don't actually like or care about music --
they care about dance and movement, and are not interested in any music
that's out of the mainstream. I.e., I think their mode of experimentation
is in movement, and they don't generally want yet another "experimental"
factor that might lose them part of their small audience.

That's what I've concluded. But I'm still looking for choreographers!

Rick

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--- In tuning@y..., "Robert Greco" <robgreco@h...> wrote:

>if our ears have in a sense been tamed to not reconise any other tonal ststem but the
>tempered scale.

This is true for Western musicians' ears to some extent, but once retrained/untamed, our ears
begin to appreciate the boundless wonders of microtonality. Nonwesterners may have a
different bias altogether (depending on the music they grew up with).

>or if producers simply dont know of micro tone >or how to create one

Even worse, they are afraid to dip into the difficult subject and make all kinds of excuses for not
doing so.

🔗Robert Greco <robgreco@hotmail.com>

your a good man!!

thank you for your help[im attempting to do a diisertation on microtonality and
why so few use it)

rob>

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