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🔗Jay Williams <jaywill@tscnet.com>

5/7/2001 9:22:30 AM

Jay here,
By a lucky accident I see that on my Roland Sound Canvas, and I presume on
other MIDI gs-compatibles, you can stuff at least two separate instruments
( programs) on the same channel. If you have, for instance, a sustained
trombone note on channel 1 you can also have piano notes going at the same
time, provided you provide the appropriate program number (0, say,) just
before each piano note or chord. The trombone note will still sustain.
Pitchbend and aftertouch entries still affect the channel as a whole, so if
applied to these new notes, the whole channel is affected. But, still a
useful thing, I think.

🔗John A. deLaubenfels <jdl@adaptune.com>

5/7/2001 12:06:07 PM

[Jay Williams wrote:]
>By a lucky accident I see that on my Roland Sound Canvas, and I presume
>on other MIDI gs-compatibles, you can stuff at least two separate
>instruments ( programs) on the same channel. If you have, for instance,
>a sustained trombone note on channel 1 you can also have piano notes
>going at the same time, provided you provide the appropriate program
>number (0, say,) just before each piano note or chord. The trombone
>note will still sustain. Pitchbend and aftertouch entries still affect
>the channel as a whole, so if applied to these new notes, the whole
>channel is affected. But, still a useful thing, I think.

Hi, Jay! I noticed that a while back too, and for awhile was very
excited that it might largely solve the channel shortage my retuning
causes. But there's a problem! If you have a trombone note and a
piano note of the same pitch on the same channel, how do you tell it
which one to turn off and which one to continue? I hoped that by using
the program number ahead of the note off, that could be specified, but
it didn't seem to work, as I recall - the module picked one on its own.

Maybe you can figure out a way around this?

JdL

🔗Jay Williams <jaywill@tscnet.com>

5/7/2001 8:50:51 PM

At 01:06 PM 5/7/01 -0600, you wrote:
>if you have a trombone note and a piano note of the same pitch on the same
channel, how do you tell it
>which one to turn off and which one to continue? I hoped that by using
>the program number ahead of the note off, that could be specified, but
>it didn't seem to work, as I recall - the module picked one on its own.
>
>Maybe you can figure out a way around this?
>
>JdL
Oh fudge, yer right about that. Well, shucks. Next thing I'd try is to play
with those separate "parts" that make up those more squirrelly sounds, like
the one that runs in parallel 4ths number 86. Maybe you have more
flexibility in editing one of those "parts." I'd try it now, but the
manual's hiding somewhere and I don't know which of those combinations of
wee buttonlets to push to turn sysex on. I don't think I can do that from
the pc keyboard. D'ya know how off hand? Cuz I wonder if this phenomenon
hasta do with somehow controlling those separate parts.
Jay
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