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All this talk about hybrid species

🔗Sarn Richard Ursell <thcdelta@ihug.co.nz>

4/19/2001 5:21:26 AM

All this talk about analogue and digital information is making me click my
heels.

But seriously though, I am itching, acheing, hopping and a popping to know
if there is any programme that could enable my computer to act as an
ANALOGUE devise as well as a digital one...

Why do I say this???

....Well, the reason that I say this is because I was talking to a street
busker who goes by the name of Pookie, and he is one awesome flute and
recorder player, and he told me that most of the interesting stuff that has
been done on analogue equipment has been done by mistake....

So, I got to thinking about a special sort of three state
synthesizer/combined sampler, which enables us to use three types of bits,
and from thus doing can make a summed power series in trinary, which has:

[0, 1]----->Digital, [2^(1/2)]&n which is basically the square root of two
superpower n, which naturally, converges towards the number two, and we
could, if we wanted to go a bit higher to a four state system with an
analogue bit 3-.-.-.-.-.-.--->4.

The three state sampler is what intrigues me most, though....

There is a special property with the square root of two as a hybrid bit, and
this is that it can be realized to any degree of accuracy with digital
equipment AND with the use of analogue electronics.

From this there can be an interplay with two states of analogue:(2^(1/2)),
and digital:(2^(1/2)), and I would LOVE dearly, and if anybody could help me
find the knowledge and the resources as to correct electronic chips to
realize this, experiment with a hybrid system of analogue and digital
applied to the square root of two as the third bit in this system, which is
what I call:

FUZZY SAMPLING.

FUZZY SOUND SYNTHESIS

I also posted a while ago some information about the nature of reverse
sampling, and nobody seemed interested.

I will go ahead and explain in some more depth....

n
E n^2 * (0, or 1---->4)
0

and this has it that we use a reverse power series to find sampling depth,
the "E" is, by the way sigma notation.

We can convert 2^n logic and sampling depth to n^2 logic and samplign depth,
and vice versa.

I would appreciate feedback on this, as I sincerely believe that this has
commercial possibilitys.

---Any thoughts?

---Sarn.

🔗John A. deLaubenfels <jdl@adaptune.com>

4/19/2001 7:39:23 AM

Sarn, I'm not following everything in your post, but want to respond to
some of your points.

>All this talk about analogue and digital information is making me click
>my heels.

As in, "There's no place like home?" Or as in, "Sieg Heil!"? Digital
may be perceived as a steamroller juggernaut by some, and its takeover
of analog is probably inevitable (and already largely accomplished to
date). But digital is not a monster. To the extent that analog
recordings provide "warmth" or other desirable qualities, these can be
simulated in digital. Consider the following thought experiment: an
advocate of analog recordings presents an example of his favorite music
as rendered from analog equipment. A phonograph record, perhaps. We
place the actual turntable behind a screen. We make a very high quality
digital recording of the output from the turntable. We then play the
music twice: once true analog, and once from the digital recording of
the analog output. If the listener cannot determine which is which,
then digital has succeeded as a "perfect" recording medium without, in
and of itself, succeeding as a perfect processing mechanism (an entirely
separate problem).

>But seriously though, I am itching, acheing, hopping and a popping to
>know if there is any programme that could enable my computer to act as
>an ANALOGUE devise as well as a digital one...

It can _simulate_ an analog device, but it can never _be_ an analog
device.

>Why do I say this???

>....Well, the reason that I say this is because I was talking to a
>street busker who goes by the name of Pookie, and he is one awesome
>flute and recorder player, and he told me that most of the interesting
>stuff that has been done on analogue equipment has been done by
>mistake....

Not surprising. Analog devices may often have "interesting" sonic
distortion properties. All of which can be simulated to arbitrary
precision in the digital realm.

>So, I got to thinking about a special sort of three state
>synthesizer/combined sampler, which enables us to use three types of
>bits, and from thus doing can make a summed power series in trinary,
>which has: [snip]

I'm not really following the rest of your post, but I will make the
observation that there is nothing magical about the number of discrete
states a digital device has. Binary is extremely convenient from
several standpoints, but a true 10-base computer could be built if
someone wanted to. Adding additional digital states does not buy
anything that cannot be achieved (probably more easily) by more bits in
a binary device.

JdL

🔗JSZANTO@ADNC.COM

4/19/2001 8:34:28 AM

Sarn,

--- In tuning@y..., Sarn Richard Ursell <thcdelta@i...> wrote:
> All this talk about analogue and digital information is making me
> click my heels.

I wondered what that sound I kept hearing was...

> But seriously though, I am itching, acheing, hopping and a popping
> to know if there is any programme that could enable my computer to
> act as an ANALOGUE devise as well as a digital one...

Why don't you just get a tape recorder? They've been around for years
now....

> ---Any thoughts?

Sarn, you need to stop all this meandering and just start *doing*
things with whatever equipment you have. Make hay while the sun
shines, so to speak......

Cheers,
Jon