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Re: The ass that can sing in all gramas [was: [tuning] Shruti Researching]

🔗David Beardsley <xouoxno@virtulink.com>

3/25/2001 4:05:35 PM

Kraig Grady wrote:

> He
> believed that many of the original melodies could have first developed
> on the flute and later pythagorean versions of the scales were used on
> string instruments.

He's not alone.

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🔗klaus schmirler <KSchmir@z.zgs.de>

3/26/2001 6:03:29 AM

Kraig Grady schrieb:
>
>
> Klaus and Haresh!
> Amiya Dasgupta who worked with Erv Wilson on examining the shutis
> being used came to the conclusion that now in North India they use
> only 17 of the 22 theoretical shutis. Amiya could hear the difference
> of 2 cents when someone would try to trick him. [...]

I can restrict my vibrato to less than +/- 3c only with difficulties
and not for long. If the ancient theorists did not pay attention to
such fine gradations (or ascribed them, not unreasonably either, to
accumulated errors), these 17 sruti might well be Al-Farabi's
pythagorean system (which recognizes (3/2)^4 and (4/3)^8 as major
thirds). Of course, the series of fifths can easily be expanded to
honor the older tradition of the 22 without emulating the generation
of the original sruti.

> On the other hand as opposed to the harmonic series, Amiya would
> recognize subharmonic flute scales as belonging to certain ragas. He
> believed that many of the original melodies could have first developed
> on the flute and later pythagorean versions of the scales were used on
> string instruments.

Not unlikely. Except for the pythagorean part, this would go well
with my thesis that the sruti were meant to be a common grid for
different scale genera.

Klaus