96-TET piano

We are receiving this month a 96-tet piano in our composition school.

Anyone has interesting scales or even parts written for that intrument ?

Good day !

Vincent-Olivier Gagnon

[Vincent-Olivier Gagnon wrote:]
>We are receiving this month a 96-tet piano in our composition school.

>Anyone has interesting scales or even parts written for that intrument?

Please tell us more about this piano! Is it acoustic? How does it
achieve 96 tones? Can it be driven electronically?

JdL

Vincent-Olivier Gagnon wrote,

<<We are receiving this month a 96-tet piano in our composition
school. Anyone has interesting scales or even parts written for that
intrument?>>

Hmm, this sure sounds like Julian Carrillo to me... ? Back in the late
eighteen hundreds Carrillo devised a microtonal system that utilized
sixteenth tones, and he composed for and trained performers in this
system as well... and he actually had enough clout to have several
microtonal pianos built to spec, and I believe there was a single
octave 96-tone piano! So I wonder if this an actual Carrillo piano, or
some sort of a remake thereof?

--Dan Stearns

It is accoustic. In fact, we'll have it in about three weeks. It's a
special piano (of course) of eight octaves (complete one), I'm already
working on a piece for it... As soon as I make a recording (in one month
and a half normally) I'll be able to put it in MP3 if you'd like to.
Anyway, there will be next year a kind of microtonal fest directed by my
composition teacher and others and of course the 96-TET piano will take part
of it !

For the details about the piano, I'm sorry for now, I don't have more
informations... and hunger for it too. I'll let you know when it is
officially arrived ! If you pass by Montreal, visit us ! :o)

So, if some people are interested in writing works for it, it becomes at
least possible now to play it somewhere !

Vincent-Olivier Gagnon.

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Date : 1 mars, 2001 17:12
Objet : [tuning] Re: 96-TET piano

>[Vincent-Olivier Gagnon wrote:]
>>We are receiving this month a 96-tet piano in our composition school.
>
>>Anyone has interesting scales or even parts written for that intrument?
>
>Please tell us more about this piano! Is it acoustic? How does it
>achieve 96 tones? Can it be driven electronically?
>
>JdL
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No, there's absolutly no confusion.

It's a gift from M. Bruce Mather, microtonalist (if we can use that
expression). He likes the Montr�al's Music Conservatory for some of us (my
teacher included) are using microtonality frequently (in fact, I never use
12-TET... found it boring personnaly ;o)

(hmmm... my setence almost doesn't make sens ;o) eheh

So, it is really a eight octave 96-TET piano... a real one !

But as I said before, I'll give you news as soon as we receive it (and
tested it ;o)... and probably tune it some times...

Best regards,

Vincent-Olivier Gagnon

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Date : 1 mars, 2001 23:12
Objet : Re : [tuning] Re: 96-TET piano

>
>
>(Vincent-Olivier Gagnon:)
>
>> It is accoustic. In fact, we'll have it in about three weeks. It's a
>> special piano (of course) of eight octaves (complete one), I'm already
>> working on a piece for it...
>
>Vincent, are you sure there's no confusion? The original Carrillo 96tet
>piano, made by Sauter, is still in production and contains 8 octaves.
That's
>to say: the keyboard looks normal and has 97 (8x12+1) keys. But the piano
>itself gives (logically) only one complete, ultrachromatic 96tet octave,
>from C' to C"!
>
>Please keep us informed!
>
>--Wim Hoogewerf
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Vincent-Olivier Gagnon wrote,

<<Anyway, there will be next year a kind of microtonal fest directed
by my composition teacher and others and of course the 96-TET piano
will take part of it>>

This is really great and exciting to hear... the 96-tone piano is a
real curio though, in that it obviously offers a kaleidoscopic pitch
palette, but it's one that is very specialized and limited as well...
as it all falls in the span of a single octave. Piano four-hands or
six-hands, or more-hands <!>, would seem an ideal way to write for the
big octave...

Anyway, good luck, and yes, please do post the results in some online
audio format.

--Dan Stearns

In fact, I'm working on a solo piece, of course really virtuoso !... but I
have good pianists who will be able to perform it, I have no fear. Of
course, to do any comprehensive harmony works on that kind of piano, one
must do very large displacement... but I'll consider the idea of making the
piece a four hand one...!

Thanks for the idea... it might be useful !

Vincent-Olivier Gagnon

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Date : 2 mars, 2001 10:53
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>Vincent-Olivier Gagnon wrote,
>
><<Anyway, there will be next year a kind of microtonal fest directed
>by my composition teacher and others and of course the 96-TET piano
>will take part of it>>
>
>This is really great and exciting to hear... the 96-tone piano is a
>real curio though, in that it obviously offers a kaleidoscopic pitch
>palette, but it's one that is very specialized and limited as well...
>as it all falls in the span of a single octave. Piano four-hands or
>six-hands, or more-hands <!>, would seem an ideal way to write for the
>big octave...
>
>Anyway, good luck, and yes, please do post the results in some online
>audio format.
>
>--Dan Stearns
>
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Hi, Dan and Vincent-Olivier;

Sauter manufactured Carillo's metamorphoseador pianos along with these
new reproductions. Their website is at <http://www.sauter-pianos.de/>. I
think they've received orders for seven or so.

I saw a photo of the instrument that is/was in Paris, courtesy of
Patrick Ozzard-Low - it's a fairly innocuous little upright except for
the bridges and larger _keyboard_ compass. This keyboard looks to be a
little confusing, since it's a normal Halberstadt arrangement where the
single octave definitely isn't spannable!

It's great that Sauter is making these, but I don't think they are
exactly serious instruments (whatever that means - I like toy pianos,
too). I know it is difficult for piano manufacturers to bypass
traditional practice in design and execution, and these are outstanding
at least in that they have special iron frames; however, in using
otherwise normal keyboards and actions they place limitions to music
that can be performed with them.

Anyhow, I look forward to hearing your impressions when it arrives since
I've not really seen or heard one.

Clark

THE 96-TET PIANO IS ARRIVED !!!!!!

What a wonderful instrument !!!
It creates whole news worlds all in an octave that seems to spawn endlessly
!!

:o)

I'll have the recording of my piano piece in less than two weeks.

Vincent-Olivier.