Re: Lighten up HSTICK

There you go again Neil--judging me
I hope you sent the same bloated rant to dan stearns
We are joking--Is that forbidden or something
on this list?
YOU are showing your over-critcal arrogance agian I am not and will not be
brow-beaten by your self-righteous posturing Mr Hstick
I am not negating or judging music in any tuning system I am merely
expressing my opinion regarding the tuning systems themselves. What I am
REALLY doing is having some fun and learning alot...particularly lately
about lattice structures.
And save your tuning history lessons for your students Bub.

Neil Haverstick wrote:

> From: Neil Haverstick <stick@uswest.net>
>
> Hey Pat P...of course, I believe that when you say equal temps are
> "yesterday's chicken salad," you are quite aware that you are going to
> piss some folks off, and start a minor tuning ruckus...what you're
> REALLY doing is revealing the smallness of your own personal concept
> about what constitutes good/great music, because as we all know, there
> has been much incredible music music written in equal temps, and there
> still is. On the other hand, I think a lot of the "just" music I have
> heard since becoming involved in this tuning odyssey leaves a lot to be
> desired in terms of musical quality(and of course, there is certainly
> great music in pure tunings). My feeling has been that for many tuning
> folks, their command of theory far exceeds their musical abilities...as
> I've always suggested, a lot of practice and study on one's instrument
> is not a bad idea. To quote the late, great Ivor Darreg from the Feb
> 1978 issue of Guitar Player: "We have had several centuries of profound
> theoretical writings, but precious little to hear." Amen to that...and
> Pat, why would you want to say such an inflammatory thing in the first
> place? It just creates bad feelings, and serves no real purpose other
> than to make folks think that you have a ways to go before you really
> understand the deeper meanings of music and art. The real masters I have
> met, such as Erv Wilson, Johnny Reinhard, Ivor Darreg, John
> Schneider...they are more interested in the quality of the music, rather
> than the decimal points of a tuning system...it's not a bad lesson to
> learn, and I hope you and others like you eventually learn it...needless
> provocation is a waste of time for all...it gets old seeing such small
> minded commentary on a list such as this; we need to be talking about
> more important things...Hstick
>
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>I hope you sent the same bloated rant to dan stearns
We are joking

Sorry Pat -- but I ain't jokin... I DO actually find the
dogmatic JI rhetoric offensive -- And that has NOTHING
whatsoever to do with the SOUND of a 7/4...

Dan

And I find corruption of purity offensive
and it has everything to do with the 7/4...the 17/16 and the 31/16 and the
19/16 and the 29/16 for that matter.
maybe I am wrong in stating my feelings?
My point to Hstick was honestly that your initial message--which I don't
think was aimed entirely at me(I may be wrong)
was inflammatory. My post was intended to be a humourous response to your
own sky-high rhetoric which I personally found laughable.
Sorry for the misunderstanding
Resonate and Extenuate.

"D. Stearns" wrote:

> From: "D. Stearns" <stearns@capecod.net>
>
> >I hope you sent the same bloated rant to dan stearns
> We are joking
>
> Sorry Pat -- but I ain't jokin... I DO actually find the
> dogmatic JI rhetoric offensive -- And that has NOTHING
> whatsoever to do with the SOUND of a 7/4...
>
> Dan
>
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I personally think it's wise, in an open forums (fora?) of this sort,
to explicitly remind us when something is an opinion. Obviously even
moderation has to be taking in moderation. It's impossible to keep from
upsetting everybody, but it's probably best to err on the side of
caution.