Re: Mr. Modulation vs. Mr. Pure (or some such entangled baloney)

Dave
I agree that music written for Equal temperment will sound queasy or out to the
ears if played in JI
I guess what I was talking about was new music made by folks maybe on the list
or still living.
---the current day composer refuses to die--
eddie varese (who
died btw)

David Mezquita wrote:

> From: "David Mezquita" <DMEZQUI@teleline.es>
>
> Patrick Pagano wrote:
> >Dan
> >I am not taking the bait this time.
> >You already know that Just Intonation is pure tuning and that Eq Temp is a
> >compromise.
> >Temperments are yesterdays chicken salad.
>
> "D. Stearns" wrote:
>
> >> Just Intonation may be all one wants to hear...or all one
> >> wants to compose with...or all one wants to talk about... or
> >> it may not -- But I personally find the idea that 'pure'
> >> tuning = a 'purer' any*thing else to be offensive in the
> >> presumptuous propagandizing extreme.
>
> Hello! My name is David, and I am new in this list. I am not an expert in
> tuning theory, but I have some idea about it and try to put it in practice
> when I play the violin and when I work with choirs.
>
> To my mind, neither Just Intonation nor Eq Temp are the only solution. Every
> music needs a different tuning.
>
> A Palestrina vocal work, for example, sounds much better with just
> intonation, because of its harmonic clarity and its diatonic construction.
> But in19th Century works we can often find accords of dim. 7th (C#-E-G-Bb)
> that play a very important role in the harmony because of their ambiguity,
> and this polivalence is lost with just intonation.
>
> A tuning is neither good, nor bad. It can only be more or less adequated to
> certain kinds of music. Well, that's my oppinion.
>
> P.S: Please, excuse my english.
>
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Joe
I use both at first to lure the player into a false sense of security
then I go in for the kill.
For new music--not medieval torture chamber music-in ensembles that i am
-avatar,uh director of
i begin by meeting the player on common turf and that just might be EQ temp
then there is a weaning
process that goes on....then finally they want to play that 7/4 etc...then I
send them to airports to sell
flowers.....:>}

Joseph L Monzo wrote:

> From: Joseph L Monzo <monz@juno.com>
>
> [Pagano:]
> > Temperments are yesterdays chicken salad.
>
> Ha! that's a good one, Pat!
>
> Temperaments are fun to play around with.
>
> JI is fun to play around *in*.
>
> (who says you can't use both?)
>
> -Monzo
>
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Joseph L Monzo wrote:

> From: Joseph L Monzo <monz@juno.com>
>
> [Pagano:]
> > Temperments are yesterdays chicken salad.
>
> Ha! that's a good one, Pat!
>
> Temperaments are fun to play around with.
>
> JI is fun to play around *in*.
>
> (who says you can't use both?)
>
> -Monzo

Temperments are only appealing if one has access to them freely and can
discard them at will. It is their use over a period of time that one tires
of them ( at least me). If you had to make acoustic instruments you use of
them would probably shrink. 53 for 5 limit music or 72 for more I would
consider to use if I had to use one. I started with 31 and after a few
years I just couldn't stand having a good 9/8
-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
www.anaphoria.com