24 ET

Kraig Grady wrote:
>I can only take your word for it because I said none of my recordings
(quick
>count of 39 CDs, not to mention records) use 24 ET.

Hmm, you might go to a library or even easier, do an Altavista search with
"Arabic +quartertone" or "Arabian +quartertone" and find handsfull of
websites.
There's even one with Lebanese CDs that has absence of quartertones as a
recommendation!

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl

manuel.op.de.coul@ezh.nl wrote:

> From: manuel.op.de.coul@ezh.nl
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
> >I can only take your word for it because I said none of my recordings
> (quick
> >count of 39 CDs, not to mention records) use 24 ET.
>
> Hmm, you might go to a library or even easier, do an Altavista search with
> "Arabic +quartertone" or "Arabian +quartertone" and find handsfull of
> websites.
> There's even one with Lebanese CDs that has absence of quartertones as a
> recommendation!
>
> Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl

Like I said I'm sure they exist but assume they are examples at how decadent
things have come in the face of western pop music. 24ET is the last thing I
would go out of my way to listen to. Like how all ethnic myths were once
shown to have parallels with parts of the bible we have ET enthusiast that
fine ET all over the world.
-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
www.anaphoria.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Kraig Grady

>24ET is the last thing I would go out of my way to listen
to

I really can't imagine why 24-tET (or any other tuning
scenario) could not be a potentially wonderful [or a
potentially lackluster] COMPONENT of a potentially wonderful
[or a potentially lackluster] MUSIC...

Dan

Message text written by INTERNET:tuning@onelist.com
>Like I said I'm sure they exist but assume they are examples at how
decadent
things have come in the face of western pop music. 24ET is the last thing I
would go out of my way to listen to. Like how all ethnic myths were once
shown to have parallels with parts of the bible we have ET enthusiast that
fine ET all over the world.
-- Kraig Grady<

Come on, Kraig, you know I have no fondness for 24tet and I certainly don't
go looking for it. Your argument looks like a form of western
self-flagellation but actually conceals the arrogant belief that no one
else would be capable of coming up with such a system.

You can also see clearly in the example of Turkish classical/Greek Orthodox
liturgical musics that in the oriental music culture closest to Europe
non-equal systems have survived and thrived, even in the face of official
westernization. The assumption that proximity to Europe will lead to
infection with the dreaded disease of temperament just does not hold

Daniel Wolf wrote:

> Come on, Kraig, you know I have no fondness for 24tet and I certainly don't
> go looking for it. \

I realize that

> Your argument looks like a form of western
> self-flagellation but actually conceals the arrogant belief that no one
> else would be capable of coming up with such a system.

No I am sure that many cultures have came up with all types of temperament and
I am glad that many chose not to use them.

> You can also see clearly in the example of Turkish classical/Greek Orthodox
> liturgical musics that in the oriental music culture closest to Europe
> non-equal systems have survived and thrived, even in the face of official
> westernization. The assumption that proximity to Europe will lead to
> infection with the dreaded disease of temperament just does not hold

Turkey as you know has been the natural enemy of Greece for centuries so
their defiance to many european things might coincide with the irish. The
other countries you mentioned were Mediterranean countries all pretty close
together. My point that we don't find this type of influence in Afghanistan,
or Iran. The latter I admit is due to its suppression by the government. It is
suprising that more of north Africa has not submitted to western pop. Although
in Algeria at least one of there pop stars were killed. Since Stern has
Address temperaments I am going to continue this on his comments

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island
www.anaphoria.com