Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Fwd: MIDI file to be tempered

John provided some excellent sounding modifications to a couple of
MIDI pieces. This might be of interest to the list:> Subject: Re: MIDI file to be tempered
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:09:41 +0100
From: Steve Sycamore
To: "John A. deLaubenfels"
CC: tuning@egroups.com
References: Aha! Once again your tunings gave the piece a very complimental
treatment. As before, more depth and clarity. Due to the thin
overtones of the flutes, I thought they sounded best with equal
tone temperament. The high strings sounded fantastic with the 7-limit
treatment, the low strings with either 7 or 5 limit low. The solo cello
and violin really perked up with 5-limit high 7th's.

I think a noticably greater amount of reverb can be applied after
your tunings because they clarify the harmonic situation so well.
That would especially enhance the ensemble effect of symphonic
sections and bring in more of a concert hall feeling.
I'll put your files alongside my originals at:

http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greenes2.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges2.mid](5-limit with higher 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greencs5.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges5.mid](5-limit with lower 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greencs7.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges7.mid](7-limit)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Green.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrg.mid](equal tempered)

http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges2.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges2.mid](5-limit with higher 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrgcs5.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges5.mid](5-limit with lower 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrgcs7.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges7.mid](7-limit)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrg.mid
[http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrg.mid](equal tempered)

Yes, these are pieces I've been working on. The page where they and
other compositions of mine live in various formats is:

http://sycamore.inr.net/music [http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges2.mid]

Thanks again. What an excellent treatment and exposition of what non-
equal tone temperaments can sound like!

Steve

"John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:> Hey, Steve, so glad you like the tunings! Please do
feel free to post
them on your web site and to make mention of them on the list.Hey, this Green is
very cool! Are these both your own compositions?
Really nice! Very glad to send you some tunings, as before.

JdL

At 10:57 PM 2/5/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>I took a first listening to each of the files you sent once or twice.
>Wow! I like what I hear. Subtle differences from the equal tone
>temperament to be sure. But definitely an improvement. All three
>tunings gave the sound noticably more depth, space, realism and
>clarity. I can much more easily imagine a vast organ spread out
>in front of the speakers and point to each pipe whereas the original
>lacks the imaging and differentiation of pipe-to-pipe anomalies.
>
>Even the mode changes and modulations sounded sweet (or
>pungently sweet in the tension parts of the piece as they should).
>I didn't hear any poor sounding intervals at all. In fact I heard a lot
>more than ever before, as if a certain muddiness disappeared.
>
>The 2 file (5-limit with higher 7ths) sounded the most subtle but still
>had the improvement in imaging and clarity. The big cadence near
>measure 40 stuck out as being vividly and wonderfully different
>sounding in the interplay of the harmonics within the fat chord.
>
>The 7 file really brought out the high harmonics and hissy sound of
>the pipes. Quite nice.
>
>The 5 file was my favorite on a first listening. It just made the music
>more complex, real and multidimensional.
>
>Thanks so much for providing the files! If it's all right with you, I'm
>going to put the files on my web page:
>

Interesting. My Netscape browser is configured to send the post in HTML
because of the links that are referenced. Your mail reader apparently doesn't
understand HTML. Sorry. Here's a pure text version:

John provided some excellent sounding modifications to a couple of
MIDI pieces. This might be of interest to the list:

Subject: Re: MIDI file to be tempered
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:09:41 +0100
From: Steve Sycamore <sycamore@inr.net>
To: "John A. deLaubenfels" <jdl@adaptune.com>
CC: tuning@egroups.com
References: <3.0.6.32.20010205180457.00903ac0@earthlink.net>

Aha! Once again your tunings gave the piece a very complimental
treatment. As before, more depth and clarity. Due to the thin
overtones of the flutes, I thought they sounded best with equal
tone temperament. The high strings sounded fantastic with the 7-limit
treatment, the low strings with either 7 or 5 limit low. The solo cello
and violin really perked up with 5-limit high 7th's.

http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greenes2.mid (5-limit with higher 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greencs5.mid (5-limit with lower 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Greencs7.mid (7-limit)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/Green.mid (equal tempered)

http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrges2.mid (5-limit with higher 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrgcs5.mid (5-limit with lower 7ths)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrgcs7.mid (7-limit)
http://sycamore.inr.net/music/FugGmOrg.mid (equal tempered)

Yes, these are pieces I've been working on. The page where they and
other compositions of mine live in various formats is:

http://sycamore.inr.net/music

Thanks again. What an excellent treatment and exposition of what non-
equal tone temperaments can sound like!

Steve

"John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:

Hey, Steve, so glad you like the tunings! Please do feel free to post
them on your web site and to make mention of them on the list.

Hey, this Green is very cool! Are these both your own compositions?
Really nice! Very glad to send you some tunings, as before.

JdL

J.P.FFITCH@maths.bath.ac.uk wrote:

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> John provided some excellent sounding modifications to a couple of
> MIDI pieces. This might be of interest to the list:
> <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Subject: Re: MIDI file to be tempered
> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 23:09:41 +0100
> From: Steve Sycamore <sycamore@inr.net>
> To: "John A. deLaubenfels" <jdl@adaptune.com>
> CC: tuning@egroups.com
> References: <3.0.6.32.20010205180457.00903ac0@earthlink.net>
> Aha! Once again your tunings gave the piece a very complimental
> treatment. As before, more depth and clarity. Due to the
> thin
> overtones of the flutes, I thought they sounded best with equal
> tone temperament. The high strings sounded fantastic with the
> 7-limit
> treatment, the low strings with either 7 or 5 limit low. The
> solo cello
> and violin really perked up with 5-limit high 7th's.
> .........
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