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🔗Mats �ljare <oljare@hotmail.com>

2/4/2001 3:20:48 PM

http://www.angelfire.com/mo/oljare/images/openfiel.mid

This is a long variation-like piano piece in 19tet.I�m still not satisfied with the sound of some intervals,perhaps it�s time for adaptive tuning with more than 12 distinct pitch classes?(raw untuned MIDI available on the page)

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🔗Paul H. Erlich <PERLICH@ACADIAN-ASSET.COM>

2/4/2001 5:24:23 PM

Hi Mats,

>http://www.angelfire.com/mo/oljare/images/openfiel.mid

>This is a long variation-like piano piece in 19tet.I´m still not satisfied
>with the sound of some intervals,perhaps it´s time for adaptive tuning with

>more than 12 distinct pitch classes?

This is very nice! Can you get more specific about which intervals and
chords you're not satisfied with the sound of, and what "target" tuning you
might envision an adaptive tuning program would assume for them?

I'd say you have great promise as a composer. Have you had any formal study
in composition? If not, it might be beneficial for you, in getting the
overall form of your works more coherent and expressive. Then again, it's
something you might hit on on your own after a while.

🔗Mats �ljare <oljare@hotmail.com>

2/4/2001 6:17:57 PM

>This is very nice! Can you get more specific about which intervals and
>chords you're not satisfied with the sound of, and what "target" tuning you
>might envision an adaptive tuning program would assume for them?

It is mostly diatonic,so it would be closer to a smaller comma meantone,with fifths approaching just.The major sevenths and raised fourths are horribly flat.Some might say these are not the most important intervals harmonically,but they give some phrases a wonky melodic structure because of the small difference between small and large steps.

There are still some changes in it that can�t be rendered in 12 nor 31-tet,or so i think.Anyway its based on the"sound"of 19-tet from the start,so adaptive tempering would be the only alternative.

I will soon finish a series of compositions exploring a range of MOSes in 17 and 19-tet that i�ve labeled Enharmonic...i hope this will be met by interest on the list.

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🔗John A. deLaubenfels <jdl@adaptune.com>

2/5/2001 3:00:45 AM

[Mats wrote:]
>http://www.angelfire.com/mo/oljare/images/openfiel.mid

>This is a long variation-like piano piece in 19tet.I'm still not
>satisfied with the sound of some intervals,perhaps it's time for
>adaptive tuning with more than 12 distinct pitch classes?(raw untuned
>MIDI available on the page)

My ears perked up at "adaptive tuning", so I downloaded both versions.
But, the untuned version, openfie2.mid, doesn't sound anything like the
tuned version - it has an extreme range of pitch, for starters.

JdL

🔗Mats �ljare <oljare@hotmail.com>

2/5/2001 3:18:27 PM

>>This is a long variation-like piano piece in 19tet.I'm still not satisfied >>with the sound of some intervals,perhaps it's time for adaptive tuning >>with more than 12 distinct pitch classes?(raw untuned MIDI available on >>the page)
>
>My ears perked up at "adaptive tuning", so I downloaded both versions. >But, the untuned version, openfie2.mid, doesn't sound anything like the >tuned version - it has an extreme range of pitch, for starters.

In the untuned version,19tet pitches are represented as individual midi notes,rather than 12tet based pitch bends.This will only sound right if played through a 19tet retuning synth,of course.

Midi note 60 is C as always-below and above that,each midi note number equals a 19tet step instead of a 12tet step.If your software is capable of(or can easily be modified to)analyze 19 distinct pitch classes(based on 19tet,not 12tet)it would be a interesting test.

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