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[tuning] Re: Metasynth

🔗mango <j.kolling@chello.nl>

1/22/2001 10:21:54 AM

Metasynth is for MAC only, isn't it ? It would be a real bummer if it was, because i really
like this type of program. (are there alternatives? i mean especially with "paining wih sound")

thanks,
mango

> http://www.uisoftware.com/PAGES/acceuil_meta.html

🔗merlyn <merlyn@cats.ucsc.edu>

1/23/2001 1:32:53 PM

yep. the guy who programmed it is a die hard MAC user. i don't know of any alternatives...

you should buy a MAC!

🔗Todd Wilcox <twilcox@patriot.net>

1/23/2001 1:56:20 PM

> yep. the guy who programmed it is a die hard MAC user. i
> don't know of any alternatives...
>
> you should buy a MAC!

Yeah! After I win the lottery! :)

Todd

🔗Alexandros Papadopoulos <alexmoog@hotmail.com>

1/24/2001 6:58:45 AM

>From: "Todd Wilcox" <twilcox@patriot.net>
>Reply-To: tuning@egroups.com
>To: <tuning@egroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: Metasynth
>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:56:20 -0800
>
> > yep. the guy who programmed it is a die hard MAC user. i
> > don't know of any alternatives...
> >
> > you should buy a MAC!
>
>Yeah! After I win the lottery! :)
>
>Todd
>
Macs are cheaper than the similar performance PC's

Alex P.
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🔗Todd Wilcox <twilcox@patriot.net>

1/25/2001 11:42:07 AM

Alex P. Wrote:
> > > you should buy a MAC!
> >
> >Yeah! After I win the lottery! :)
> >
> >Todd
> >
> Macs are cheaper than the similar performance PC's

Base Mac G4 cube (450 MHz): $1499.00 US
Dell 1 GHz PIII with near identical configuration: $1198.00 US

I even added a network card, firewire card, and DVD-ROM drive to the Dell to
make it more like the G4. Both prices are without monitor, but include
keyboard, mouse and speakers. The reason why I compared a 450 MHz G4 to a 1
GHz PIII is because the different architectures mean that the G4 is actually
slightly faster when it comes to floating point operations, I'm not sure
about integer operations, though.

Also, keep in mind that Dell is one of the most expensive integrators of PC
compatibles.

I could build a machine that outperforms the Dell priced above for less than
$1000, I couldn't build a Mac compatible at all, since Apple doesn't allow
that.

TOdd

🔗shreeswifty <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

7/27/2001 5:31:24 PM

Hello folks
recently aquired a G4 and have just begun to explore metasynth
any tips for a newbie

Pat Pagano, Director
South East Just Intonation Society
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/
http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/

🔗nanom3@home.com

7/27/2001 11:04:43 PM

--- In tuning@y..., "shreeswifty" <ppagano@b...> wrote:
> Hello folks
> recently aquired a G4 and have just begun to explore metasynth
> any tips for a newbie
>
> Hi Pat

Good for you. The G4's are awesome. Here is a copy of a post I
wrote several weeks ago for a similar question on Irrational (Crazy)
Music on MetaSynth. What other Mac programs are you using -
SuperCollider or Symbolic Composer? Feel free to respond to me
privately.

Brian asked

> Ditto Mary. Have MetaSynth and have used it a little. But you
> seem to get a lot more out of it than Yaws Twuwy. Perhaps Mary
could
> post some detailed descriptions of how she teases those exotic
> timbres out of MetaSynth and how she organizes them--a sampler?
> GigaSampler? Csound? Or what?

MetaSynth is a great reason to own a MAC, just like Acid is reason
enough to have a PC. It truly encompasses worlds within worlds, and
I've only explored a few of the possibilites it offers.

Often times I take symbols that are meaningful to me, like Sanskrit
or the Language of Light, and use those to synthesize a sound. I
like to take a piece of audio from a piece I am working on, bring
into Metasynth and resynthesize it using the symbols. It is very
easy to do microtunings in metasynth either TET or by importing
scales from Scala, and I may just run through a bunch of tunings till
I find one I like. I also like to bring in speech I find
interesting, analyze it to its sonogram, and then resynthesize it
using a sound like gongs or cymbals. It gives the rythm of speech
with the sound of the instrument.

Actually I find metasynth works best for me if I just treat it as "a
lab". I put together lots of ingredients- pictures and sounds, then
mix rthyms and tunings and just save all the sounds. This works well
on a second computer because the process is CPU intensive. Usually
days or weeks later I will then make a big playlist and pick out the
ones I like best, then incorporate them back into the "mother" piece
on another MAC running ProTools. The most recent ProTools can
convert 16bit into 24 bit now in the import audio window which saves
a lot of time. MetaSynth is only 16 bit and I use Spark to batch
convert audiofiles from ProTools. I also am finding that the newest
autoTune works well in the "learn midi(microtuning)" mode as a TDM
plugin. I wasn't able to get this feature to work in VST.

Here are two "standalone" examples. The Dark Side of DNA takes some
audio composed from DNA code (another post) and mixes it with speech
from an entity talking about traveling through the DNA into the void
(shaman stuff). I found that allowed me, by listening to the sound
in my trusty mp3 player, to have some very interesting journeys. It
also has done the same for others, but not everybody. Culminations
was made in a similar way and allows me to feel some of the awesome
potential that the future holds in the genes themselves.

http://www.elucida.com/DNA_Music1.html

Here is a work in progress using some of the techniques I talked
about above. The picture is what I used in the Image Synth to
resynthesize some of the sounds, including the cymbals you hear
through out the piece. The tuning for the cymbals is 41 TET and 63
TET which I think I chose because we were discussing 41 and it seemed
to work (Forget how I got the 63). I also used 72TET, because it has
so many harmonics, and 96TET which works with it. Is there a
mathematical reason for that - ie 96 as a harmonic of 72? Anyway the
speech you here is layered in as a rthym with a 96 tuning. I also
tried using 59 and 37 with it (that was from the scale tree) but it
didn't work in this piece. I moved the audio from MetaSynth around
in ProTools until I felt I had a sense of ancient spaciousness, like
one of the original hydrogen molecules from the big bang floating
around in deep space.

http://64.225.101.47/Layer4.html

As usual it is a long (7mb) download.

Mary
http://www.elucida.com

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