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Ives "Universe" tuning

🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

1/21/2001 9:05:11 AM

Perhaps it's time for a progress report on the AFMM Ensemble recording of my
realization of the Charles Ives "Universe Symphony." We now have completed
the cello and double bass, have 80% of the viola, have 40% of the clarinet
and bassoon, and the low bell. Monday and Tuesday evenings is devoted to the
trumpet, French horn, and trombone. We overtrack the different lines.
Everyone follows a video of my conducting the piece.

The tuning for this, the Earth Orchestra is in Enharmonic Pythagorean. I
would call it chromatic if not for the syntonic comma relationships. On the
bassoon I can almost "press and blow" all the correct notes for the piece and
find that everyone is negotiating the intonation well. (It was toughest for
the first group).

Here's an open question to the list: now that I have the Earth scintillating
in Enharmonic Pythagorean, I need to place the Heavens in thick chords in
contradistinction, so what will the effect be of such a schism...between
thick 12tET and thick Enharmonic Pythagorean?

Johnny Reinhard
AFMM

🔗Joseph Pehrson <joseph@composersconcordance.org>

1/21/2001 2:42:46 PM

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> Perhaps it's time for a progress report on the AFMM Ensemble
recording of my realization of the Charles Ives "Universe Symphony."
We now have completed the cello and double bass, have 80% of the
viola, have 40% of the clarinet and bassoon, and the low bell.
Monday and Tuesday evenings is devoted to the trumpet, French horn,
and trombone.

Go Johnny, go go go!!!

_________ ______ __ __
Joseph Pehrson

🔗D.Stearns <STEARNS@CAPECOD.NET>

1/21/2001 8:37:33 PM

Johnny Reinhard wrote,

<<Perhaps it's time for a progress report on the AFMM Ensemble
recording of my realization of the Charles Ives "Universe Symphony.">>

Sounds great, should be a real treat!

How goes the book end of this mammoth joint project of yours (getting
it published, etc.)?

<<Here's an open question to the list: now that I have the Earth
scintillating in Enharmonic Pythagorean, I need to place the Heavens
in thick chords in contradistinction, so what will the effect be of
such a schism...between thick 12tET and thick Enharmonic
Pythagorean?>>

Hmm, could be many things, kind of hard to tell for sure 'till you get
there...

good luck!,

--Dan Stearns

🔗Paul Erlich <PERLICH@ACADIAN-ASSET.COM>

1/21/2001 6:53:11 PM

--- In tuning@egroups.com, Afmmjr@a... wrote:

> Here's an open question to the list: now that I have the Earth scintillating
> in Enharmonic Pythagorean, I need to place the Heavens in thick chords in
> contradistinction, so what will the effect be of such a schism...between
> thick 12tET and thick Enharmonic Pythagorean?

It depends where you link the two tunings . . . are you going to link them at C?

🔗Afmmjr@aol.com

1/22/2001 6:34:58 AM

Thanks, Dan. The book will likely be a partner with the CD. May have to
rewrite the first chapter accordingly. We're still looking at September for
completion.

Incidentally, my album Raven, also produced by Stereo Society and Michael
Thorne, is now available on Amazon.com for 12 bucks.

And yes, I think until we hear the "dissonance" of thick 12tET against thick
enharmonic Pythagorean, we will never truly know what it sounds like. But it
sounds like an exquisite idea for Ives to conjure as the chaos forming the
earth. Interesting, too, that "heaven" is in 12tET.

Johnny Reinhard
AFMM